The Avalanches

debaserr · 08-26-2009, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by mr dave

best i got into from the 90s stuff was amon tobin - by far.

other notables are squarepusher, aphex twin, boards of canada, jega.

and still, those names are dated and well established within the style at this point.

best amon tobin album to start with?

mr dave · 08-26-2009, 04:02 PM

http://www.musicbanter.com/electroni...mon-tobin.html

Grotesque Head · 08-26-2009, 05:30 PM

It's weird that generally, when talking about who is the best electronic artist around, most people name people from the '90s and not the '00s. Well, not weird exactly, just proof that the '00s have been relatively disappointing in comparison.

mr dave · 08-26-2009, 06:43 PM

i think it's because electronic music tends to move at a difference pace than the pop/rock most people are used to dealing with. the artists aren't pushed for commercial success nearly as much and can take more time between releases leading to longer careers and greater time spent within the collective attention span of the music listening public.

just like any other 'new' thing the first thing to crop up are the imitators who will eventually fall to the side. striking the proper balance when making electronic music is also very crucial, too much hard rock and you sound like a NIN / ministry clone. not enough variation to your beat and you sound like any other faceless house DJ from any dance hall out there.

it's not so much that the 00s are disappointing so much as they haven't become distinguished yet. then again it's hard to distinguish yourself when absolutely everything is now available at your fingertips. musical obscurity only exists as a reflection of a listener's desire for attention.

Grotesque Head · 08-26-2009, 07:23 PM

Yeah, you're probably right.

I mean, most of the big '90s names in Electronic music are still making brilliant music this decade too (Boards Of Canada with Geogaddi for example), and I suppose most decent Electronic musicians tend to have longer careers than those of Rock or Pop musicians.

And who knows, maybe in the next decade we might look back at this decade's artists with more affection.

mr dave · 08-27-2009, 01:00 AM

i think another big factor is the distribution method. by going online first and foremost the odds of being a wide scale commercial success are pretty much nil, but at the same time there aren't the ostentatious costs involved with large scale material distribution. you don't need to spend millions hyping up something you made in your bedroom to recoup the studio costs.

on the other hand, sticking to online / small scale independent distribution makes it harder to find physically, but requires less sales to break even or make a small profit, so you don't need to be the next big thing to really 'make it'.

debaserr · 08-27-2009, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mr dave

http://www.musicbanter.com/electroni...mon-tobin.html

could you just recommend an album please sir?

jackhammer · 08-27-2009, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

I find a lot of that cut & paste type of stuff dates really badly.

They were entertaining for a few minutes in 2001 but that's about it.

I agree. I don't think I have heard the album in years and despite some odd gems, the album was largely forgettable.

mr dave · 08-27-2009, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by trace87

could you just recommend an album please sir?

permutations

debaserr · 08-27-2009, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mr dave

permutations

thanks much!

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08-26-2009, 07:23 PM	#35 (permalink)
Grotesque Head Music Addict Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: England Posts: 121	Yeah, you're probably right. I mean, most of the big '90s names in Electronic music are still making brilliant music this decade too (Boards Of Canada with Geogaddi for example), and I suppose most decent Electronic musicians tend to have longer careers than those of Rock or Pop musicians. And who knows, maybe in the next decade we might look back at this decade's artists with more affection. __________________ Last.FM