Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1814638)

right, yeah just because it's exaggerated doesn't make it a non-issue. a clear understanding of what consensual and non-consensual sex should be common knowledge for everyone.

it seems that whenever the topic comes up you either have conservatives who believe every woman to ever claim rape is a liar and people on the other side who will always side with the accuser. the reality is that both sides happen (albeit one much more than the other, that we can all agree on im sure) and it's clear that we need to have a better understanding as a society of what exactly constitutes sexual assault, rape, sexual harassment etc.

there's nothing wrong with what Ki said, although he could have certainly worded it better. you were just looking to start an argument to make him look like some sort of victim blamer.

Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1814638)

right, yeah just because it's exaggerated doesn't make it a non-issue. a clear understanding of what consensual and non-consensual sex should be common knowledge for everyone.

Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1814653)

I'd like to have it pointed out in my post where I showed any indication of victim blaming. I said in situations of rape, it's possible for the victim to be either the man or woman, or neither. I also said that if neither person tries to stop it, they cannot be a victim. You can't just call it rape if you regret it the next day.

That example of them sleeping is a poor one since I'm pretty sure, given the crcumstance, the person would wake up and attempt to stop it.

Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1814653)

I'd like to have it pointed out in my post where I showed any indication of victim blaming. I said in situations of rape, it's possible for the victim to be either the man or woman, or neither. I also said that if neither person tries to stop it, they cannot be a victim. You can't just call it rape if you regret it the next day.

That example of them sleeping is a poor one since I'm pretty sure, given the crcumstance, the person would wake up and attempt to stop it.

Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1814653)

I'd like to have it pointed out in my post where I showed any indication of victim blaming.

Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1814613)

You['re as big of a problem for letting it happen as the person doing it..

Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1814610)

B]you aren't allowed to play the victim card.[/B]

Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1814656)

I think the point here was that sometimes women(possibly many under special circumstances) may be too overwhelmed or scared to stop it from happening. I think realistically consent is more than just letting something happen.

Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1814657)

Did you get bored of your new job, and this is why you're seeking validation through trolling? I understand obviously, but trolling a rape thread is still lame.

Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1814658)

Right here



This is basically saying that the victims are as bad as a rapist. If you don't think that's victim blaming then I wonder what you would call that



And that too.



Nice. So banging someone when they're asleep is their fault because they shoulda woke up and stopped you?

Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1814660)

Do you...even read posts? The last part is so off the mark that it's actually hilarous.