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Burning Down 10-26-2013 03:43 PM

There's actually a whole Wikipedia page devoted to football fan hooliganism. Football hooliganism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Oh, right. You guys don't fight like Americans do over the outcome of a game. I forgot it's all rainbows and sunshine and unicorns.

djchameleon 10-26-2013 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1377537)

In fact the only other countries that are comparable to the USA and Canada in terms of football (soccer) are Australia and NZ and the link between the two is that both USA/Canada and Australia/NZ were originally isolated from the old world, rather than actually forgetting their roots. But then again, football never actually took off in Australia and NZ, but rugby and cricket did.

This is possible the reason then.



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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1377539)
Again you're talking absolute crap DJ. True football fans HATE any sort of fighting, bad behaviour or hooliganism. It's what gives the sport a bad name and it most certainly is NOT what makes football great. Just shows that as little as I admittedly know about American Football, you know eff-all about "proper", real football. :rolleyes: :banghead:
And when did Goofle ever claim that fightng in the game was good? He was talking about cheering, laughing, applauding, the odd pitch invasion, all in good taste and with all fans bonded together. Nothing like riots or any sort of trouble, which we all hate to see.

He never claimed that fighting in the game was good but he was talking about how passionate the fans are and from an American perspective a large majority of your football game ends up with fans fighting each other. Green hooligans is pretty accurate. Movies are just like real life.

Cuthbert 10-26-2013 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1377534)
Those are the kind of fans that Goofle loves the bat shit mental ones that love to see fights and what makes the sport he loves so great.

No not at all, he's just pointing out the sheer euphoria and emotion that one feels when supporting a team.

djchameleon 10-26-2013 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Christian Benteke (Post 1377543)
No not at all, he's just pointing out the sheer euphoria and emotion that one feels when supporting a team.

You think that doesn't happen with other sports?

You do know that fan is short for fanatic right?

If someone is a fan of a sport then they exhibit those same traits when they see their favorite team play except maybe in Tennis when they are generally pretty quiet but only cheer/applaud after sets/points.

Burning Down 10-26-2013 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1377542)
He never claimed that fighting in the game was good but he was talking about how passionate the fans are and from an American perspective a large majority of your football game ends up with fans fighting each other. Green hooligans is pretty accurate. Movies are just like real life.

The only time I actually hear anything significant over here about European football is when fans riot over something trivial. That's not the image that should be projected to North America about association football, but unfortunately that's what many of us think of.

Unknown Soldier 10-26-2013 03:46 PM

I don't know if it's a valid argument though, to suggest that football fans are more passionate than fans of American sports, from what I've seen Americans seem to go ape over their sports just as much as anybody else.

Cuthbert 10-26-2013 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1377542)
He never claimed that fighting in the game was good but he was talking about how passionate the fans are and from an American perspective a large majority of your football game ends up with fans fighting each other. Green hooligans is pretty accurate. Movies are just like real life.

Green Street? That's not accurate at all :D, I go to games regularly myself, that kind of stuff was commonplace in the 70s and 80s, it doesn't happen so much now. That film was embarrassing Londoners playing up to the camera (obviously). 'Firms' are fucking cringe worthy.

You get maybe two or three incidents a year and certainly not at a club like Arsenal which is the team Goofle supports.

Places like Turkey, Italy or Argentina I'd say it's more common..

Unknown Soldier 10-26-2013 03:51 PM

I've not been to a huge amount of football matches, but those I have been to have luckily been in various countries and have to say the most electric in terms of atmosphere was in Argentina watching Boca Juniors.


Boca Juniors vs. River Plate Argentina football soccer fans - YouTube

Cuthbert 10-26-2013 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1377544)
You think that doesn't happen with other sports?

Yeah, but I think football fans are generally more passionate and especially in Britain. You see the support England take abroad for things like the World Cup for example, the Scots at Wembley last month, Celtic/Rangers, club away support and so on. And I don't mean dicks covered in merchandise with big sponge hands and 50 megapixel cameras I mean making noise and getting behind the team. Also a lot of football rivalries go deeper than football.

I hear what Goofle is saying, for example nothing touches the drama and emotion of things like the World Cup. See my thread in the sports forum, even people who don't follow the sport have posted in it.

Goofle 10-26-2013 04:06 PM

The reaction to a goal in football cannot be surpassed by a singular point in any other sport. Obviously a "match point" in any sport is comparable, but I am taking about the average goal.


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