Uh... I'd say having sex with children is ****ed up regardless of what time period it occurs in. I don't see how feeling that way is 'touchy' and I think this whole idea you have of 'reality' is profoundly cowardly and inhibited. The world is ****ed up, therefore it's stupid to be upset about it? It's just reality that stuff like that happens. "Meh". Also way to be sexist and marginalize women... also I think you missed the 'inside-joke' aspect of Frown's post.

of course it's ****ed up but there's no point in dwelling on on it. it already happened, it's one of those sad but true type situations. honestly muhammad had good reasons for making her his wife which FL might have been indicating to but there is still a tradition (by people who revered him) that states he consummate the marriage at puberty.

you saying my outlook is cowardly is another example of double talk on this forum. me just stating **** the way it is is 'cowardly' cause i'm afraid to have emotions or something. i'm not afraid of emotions its just illogical to get worked up over some **** that happened in the past by applying our present standard retroactively. it's honestly like watching a nature documentary and getting hostile towards the lions cause it seems mean to eat other critters.

Dwelling on things is how we make sure that we don't let them happen again. It's called stopping the repetition of history. And you two have different outlooks on life, so fighting about your differences is bound to be fruitless; neither of you is right or wrong, you just have differing glimpses of the same truth.

You want to stop this? Insist that biological fathers raise their own children and women who don't intend to marry the father stop breeding. Shame these disgusting animals.

Many nations are trying to curb unwanted pregnancies, usually by having contraceptives like condoms covered by medical plans and assisted care. But then people complain, because it raises their taxes, and religious employers get angry about paying for something that goes against their ideology, so... the lesson is that you just can't win.

And, no, i'm not going to shame someone just for having a different lifestyle from my own. Try living from paycheck to paycheck, with absolutely no hope of escaping from your situation, without jumping at the chance to have sex, drugs, or whatever else takes your mind off of your inevitable mortality even for just a moment. You may not agree with them, but try to understand their point of view, especially if you expect them to try to understand yours.

All I have to say is: Get an abortion. Problem solved. Unwanted child with no father? Problem created.

I'm a free love, pro-drugs guy. I even knocked up a chick on a one night stand. But guess what! There was an easy solution. We had access to a legal procedure that destroyed the fetus for us. Wa-la!!!

When infant mortality rate was that high and life expectancy was that low, it was kind of the lesser of two evils. You had to start making babies as young and as much as possible. However we feel about it now, it was just necessary back in the day, so getting pissed at some guy in the past for something that was just the way it was is irrational.

All I can say is that I'm glad my parents didn't have your mindset.

I know you're just trying to respond to me, but maybe this isn't the right thread for this kind of discussion?

Breaking News!

Florida Man & Woman have been caught up in a derailment...

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Well, of they did you wouldn't care because you wouldn't know because you wouldn't exist so it wouldn't matter.

I'm sorry... what does this have to do with ****ing children again? Did I miss something or...? And who are you to be telling people who can and can't raise children? There are PLENTY of instances where stepparents, unwed parents, and single parents do a fine job of raising their child/ren, how is that disgusting?

Not necessarily. I'm completely pro choice but to automatically assume that is hurtful.

lol, yea it's my fault. i wasn't even trying to start a big argument. i figured roxy would just come in and call me ignorant again. you guys need to either learn to just ignore my ****ty jokes or ban me.

Kids need their real parents. It's time we stopped pretending all this other bull**** is working when it's in our face all day not working. Wanna party and have fun smoke weed drink screw the whole damn crew? Great! Just don't breed. Leave that to people who want stability. It's cool to live how you want but bringing a kid into it is disgusting and selfish. That's why this 12 year old was getting it from 60 year old. Because her real father doesn't even know her. Her mom thought that's all right but guess what it wasn't all right. Hell yes I judge. Don't be a parent if you're not ready to sacrifice.

Listen to this man. He obviously has a well thought out plan to end pedophilia forever. There's a reason his screen name can be shortened to "OH", cause "Oh ****, this dude is the truth!"

Now, wait a second, I think that automatically assuming that only one type of family group is right, and all others are broken is ignorant and backwards. Non biological parents and being unable to sacrifice for a child are definitely not mutually inclusive. You're somehow trying to assert that they are, but they're not. And, honestly, as someone with two step parents (who, by the way, have both done a good job), I'm a little insulted. But I'd rather not bring that into this debate.

I'm pro choice as hell, but that family values stuff is backwards BS.

Again, what is wrong with adoptive or stepparents? Are you talking about the parents in question when you say people who party shouldn't have kids? Because there's nothing about the parent's being partiers or not in the news article. And plenty of parents are capable of having a good time while being responsible and nurturing. And there isn't anything about whether or not the child knows her father. I think you're trying to oversimplify the situation because you want to think you have answers to things that probably don't have answers.

lol

A lot of people have kids. Very few people should have kids. I'll be the first to admit my parents never should have had me. I also think no father is better than a bad father. But they way it is now with all these men raising other men's children or just hanging around the house screwing their mothers is ridiculous. People want to defend it because that's how they were raised or that's what they're doing now but it's easy to see it's no good.

Uh.... nice debating skills. Also, no better father than a bad father?? wtf??? You have some seriously skewed views, man. Jesus.

People are defending men screwing their mothers?

Okay, let's say that very few people should have kids. Let's also say that no father is better than a bad father. Just for arguments sake.

First of all, what do those things actually have to do with the point you're trying to make?

Secondly, the rest of argument is broad objective claims about what you feel should be easy to see or obvious. These are your opinions, and the very things we disagree with you on. Obviously, these things aren't obvious to us. If they were, then we wouldn't be having this debate.

Your entire argument is pretty much just a big "I feel like this is true, so it must be true", and, after all, there's more to an argument than an opinion.

Oh, and to be fair, that can be interpreted in a couple different ways. I took it as "not having a father is better than having a bad one".

Maybe he can clarify what he meant, but I think that's the one.

Florida Man fatally shoots his friend ... just to make sure a loaded gun would fire
Florida Man crashes girlfriend's car on the thought of sex with his dead grandmother
Florida Man hits Florida store employee with lizard

Florida Woman has been less prolific in her crimes today...

Florida Woman ditches child to go clubbing

uh.... what?

right??

of all things he could have smacked a guy with, it had to be a lizard. :laughing:

Poor lizard :(.

I can just imagine, chillin in the lamplight. Minded his bizz. Eyein the turtles across the aisle, pondering what life must be like as a turtle. Then, all of a sudden, a humongous hand just wraps around his little tail, whirls him around like a nunchuck, and smacks some dude in the face with his face. Like wow dude, way to be a dick person with humongous hands. Rude.

I'd be so pissed if I was just doing lizard stuff and all of a sudden Florida Man decided to pull some shit.

Like, damn, Florida Man, you could have just asked if the lizard was a ninja assassin.

it just occurred to me that maybe he was doing a roxy impression lol. if so then my bad. if he was serious then never mind. either way just try to keep in mind that lately i've been on a lot of drugs.

Swinging his bearded lizard around, smacking employees with it, putting it in his mouth...

That conjures up some rather perverse pet store imagery! :yikes:

That's just made me reconsider whether I really to want to work at a pet store again this summer.

You might get smacked by a lizard. Make sure there's a lizard combat clause in your employment contract first. :laughing:

I was emulating mordwyr so direct your conplaints to him.

He should be proactive and smack the lizard first. In private though. Don't want to get charged with public indecency.

your beard reminds me of islam. i'm surprised that i was too ****ed up to make that connection. i think i need to slow down.

When I go back to work this summer, I'm going to cringe every time somebody picks up a reptile. Thank God I work in the fish department.

:rolleyes: Well bugger me sideways, to borrow a colloquial turn of phrase.

I still can't believe there are fish nerds. You're like a hipster dork.

There are no laws stating that you can't slap someone with a fish. You shouldn't, but that doesn't mean you can't. :laughing:

Florida Man's been busy!

Florida Man brings baby to an attempted burglary
Florida Man arrested for possession of illegal drugs while wearing a shirt about illegal drugs

Florida Man arrested for masturbating outside of school(s) while looking at children
Florida Man leaves behind teeth in a car he intended to steal
Florida Man stabs his father with pliers during an argument
Florida Man drunkenly drives wrong way on freeway, almost hits state trooper

Florida Woman has mostly flown under the radar today...

Florida Woman's new drivers' license states that she lives on "Eat Ass" street

And while this is old news (June 11, 2014) ... Florida Woman named Crystal Methany shoots a missile into a vehicle in the most Florida thing that ever happened.

These four are from 2014, but the adventures of Florida Man & Florida Woman never get stale...

Florida Man Tries to Skip Out On Restaurant Bill By Getting Into Wrong Car | New Times Broward-Palm Beach

Police arrest tar-covered man atop Daytona Beach store | News-JournalOnline.com

Cops: Pocket-Dial To 911 Sinks Florida Trio Operating Meth Lab In Backyard Shed | The Smoking Gun

Florida Man Has Sex With Pit Bull as Neighbors Beg Him to Stop | New Times Broward-Palm Beach