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judas_priest 02-08-2006 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by LukeM_UK
Who the hell are they?!

Dream Theater are an amazing progressive metal band. I think Boo Boo was asking if you liked them as an insult as he clearly doesn't.

Urban Hat€monger ? 02-08-2006 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by oojay
i believe that TOOL is vastly overrated. its nothing more than emo w/ a little more percussion.

Replace emo with grunge & i`ll agree with you. But it is good to finally see someone who agrees with me about that band at long last.

I just don`t see anything special about this band whatsoever.

TrampInaTux 02-08-2006 12:05 PM

For some reason my previous post to Luke M has been deleted, but I would just like to say that whatever your opinion on The Beatles is, you can't deny their influence to music and their impact on the world in general. So, no matter if you like them or dislike them, you cannot argue with the FACT that they are one of the best bands to ever grace this Earth.

boo boo 02-08-2006 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by judas_priest
Dream Theater are an amazing progressive metal band. I think Boo Boo was asking if you liked them as an insult as he clearly doesn't.

I never said i didnt like them (i dont), i just said that they arent really progressive, theres more to being progressive than just complexity, odd time signatures, long songs and virtuoso musicianship...It also requires a little originality....The fact of the matter is, Petrucci and the gang spend way too much time reading the idiots guide for how to be a 70s progressive rock band, and not enough time on finding their own identity or a style that suits their talents, plus they have the worst vocalist in the world, and some very bad lyrics to boot...Its true that the biggest weakness for many prog bands is the lyrics (ELP for example, had very mediocre lyrics), but many of these bands make up for it with their music, not the case for DT, at least in my opinion.

Im not saying DT arent progressive rock, in genre terms they are, just not in terms of their actual music, because they're simply not doing anything new, and after all thats what being progressive means, doing something new, at least in a certain sense...Its like how Green Day are a punk rock band, but they arent really punk...Simple way of putting it, i find Dream Theater to be a very overrated prog band, especialy when people say they are the best prog band today or that they are a top 10 prog band...Most of these people have barely listened to more than a dozen or so prog bands to start with...And they dont even understand the basic principles of being progressive rock.

[MERIT] 02-08-2006 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger
Replace emo with grunge & i`ll agree with you. But it is good to finally see someone who agrees with me about that band at long last.

I just don`t see anything special about this band whatsoever.

everyone i know would go g@y for them at the drop of a hat. i personally think they are rubbish.

Laces Out Dan! 02-08-2006 12:29 PM

Ill agree that Dream Theater is hardly prog...some main things about prog are originality (like the mars volta) and it seems to me DT just picked up all kinda\s of things from other REAL prog bands and added virtuosos and whatnot

judas_priest 02-08-2006 12:42 PM

I think DT are pretty original, and although they are clearly influenced by 70s progressive bands, I can't think of any which have the same sound as Dream Theater.
Boo Boo said that they don't progress, but in my opinion all their albums are different from each other and unique. It's not as if their style remains the same all the time.
I also don't see what's wrong with their lyrics. I think that Scenes From A Memory, for example, is interesting and thought provoking, and James La Brie is a very talented singer.

Urban Hat€monger ? 02-08-2006 12:44 PM

Dream Theater are just a normal rock band with wanky musicians.

But they are the only band who can make me throw up just by seeing an album cover.

boo boo 02-08-2006 12:50 PM

Instrumentaly, a lot of their stuff reminds me of Rush with a different singer...Plus they sound like Styx and Saga to me, and neither of those bands were top of the prog heap to begin with.

Urban Hat€monger ? 02-08-2006 12:52 PM

I just don`t see how a band who uses every cliche under the sun (Their song titles seriously make me piss myself laughing) can call themselves progressive.

I bet they even have amps that go up to 11.


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