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Old 03-05-2006, 11:23 AM   #21 (permalink)
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^how so?

i take it that youre saying that there is often more originality in the guy who has no clue what he's doing, rather than the guy that knows every single thing here is to know about drumming, and has done it all before.

am i right in assuming that thats what you are trying to say?
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Old 03-05-2006, 11:58 AM   #22 (permalink)
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No you couldn't. Sometimes restraint with regard to drumming is huge. In fact, I'd go out on a limb and say the more highly trained techinal drummer are often ****tier than the guy you hand a couple sticks too.
You're wrong.

The White Stripes would be so much better with Neil Peart on drums LOL!!!11!

And Batio and Cooley should replace Jack on guitar, Dio replace him on vocals, and then have Billy Sheenan on bass.

Cuz you cant have a good band without fancy solos and a bass player, dats teh troof.
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Old 03-05-2006, 01:36 PM   #23 (permalink)
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No, they just don't sound good, I don't think.

Drums seem to be predestined to play something simplistic to keep everything else grounded. Crazyness seems to prevent people from connecting.

I don't know, im leaving the door open for violent assault against me, but thats just what I feel. Complex drumming more often than not equates to bad drumming.
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Old 03-05-2006, 01:46 PM   #24 (permalink)
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*ahem* the mars volta are all about drums as far as i'm concerned....their drummer is a god!!
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Old 03-05-2006, 02:14 PM   #25 (permalink)
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^very true. what im getting from this is that the drumming has to match the music.

i mean...if you had meg white playing drums for a band like the mars volta, well they would obviously not be as good, and their sound would suffer hugely. but say you put the mars volta's drummer in place of meg white. that band would surely have quite a different sound, and it wouldnt be the white stripes as we know it. so it sounds like the conclusion we're arriving at is that (and i think this may have been stated) the drummer makes the band.
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Old 03-05-2006, 02:19 PM   #26 (permalink)
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how hard was it to drum to that lollipop bullshit?
you try maintaining a solid drum beat for 3+ minutes.
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No, they just don't sound good, I don't think.

Drums seem to be predestined to play something simplistic to keep everything else grounded. Crazyness seems to prevent people from connecting.

I don't know, im leaving the door open for violent assault against me, but thats just what I feel. Complex drumming more often than not equates to bad drumming.
I was joking.

I actualy agree with you, though you will probably piss off many drummers whose goal is to drum like Mike Portnoy.

I think complex drumming only works for complex music, which The White Stripes dont do, so complex drumming is very un needed, i was merely mocking those who think bands have to be very skilled to be considered good musicians, and more importantly a good band.
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you try maintaining a solid drum beat for 3+ minutes.
Listen to Helter Skelter, Ringo goes out on his way just to keep up with everybody else.

Ringo isnt very good technicaly, hell my brother is more technical on drums, but the main thing is Ringo was a very important ingredient to The Beatles, and thats all that really matters because The Beatles own all these lame power metal bands with technical drummers, id rather listen to Ringos simple drumlines than a boring 3 minute solo from Ian Paice.
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Old 03-05-2006, 02:25 PM   #29 (permalink)
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you try maintaining a solid drum beat for 3+ minutes.
that's all you got? one could probably train a monkey to do just that...
and to anyone bitching about meg white's drumming, i agree with perfection, if it was someone else, it wouldn't be the white stripes we all know and love....she does a perfect job....
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Old 03-05-2006, 02:33 PM   #30 (permalink)
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you specialise in contradicting yourself dont you. you say ringo's drumming is crap because its so simple and easy, yet you praise meg white for doing just the same? and you seem to completely underestimate the difficulty in keeping a drum beat, the coordination between the foot operating the bass drum and the hands using the sticks has to be perfect throughout.
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