Music Banter

Go Back   Music Banter > The Music Forums > General Music
Register Blogging Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
Welcome to Music Banter Forum! Make sure to register - it's free and very quick! You have to register before you can post and participate in our discussions with over 70,000 other registered members. After you create your free account, you will be able to customize many options, you will have the full access to over 1,100,000 posts.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-09-2006, 08:21 PM   #51 (permalink)
jr.
Seeker of Peace
 
jr.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Newark, De.
Posts: 341
Default

I think a person's opinion of whether he was a great, good, competent, or bad drummer, for some people, is in direct correlation with how much they like/dislike the Beatles. Or at least that's the impression I get from this thread, anyway. I could be wrong. (wouldn't be the first time)

Either way, Ringo was 1/4 of the Beatles, and he played his part. John and Paul were the focal point, with George and Ringo the supporting cast. That was just the dynamic, you know?

As far as Ringo's abilities, he wasn't spectacular, but didn't often embarrass himself. He could carry a tune, barely. If he was a great singer, he'd have had more songs, right?
__________________
Be strong then, and enter into your own body;
there you have a solid place for your feet. ~ Kabir
jr. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2006, 10:22 PM   #52 (permalink)
Account Disabled
 
boo boo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Where the buffalo roam.
Posts: 12,137
Default

Its not like he tried to do more than he could handle.

Like Tommy Lee.
boo boo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2006, 08:16 PM   #53 (permalink)
jr.
Seeker of Peace
 
jr.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Newark, De.
Posts: 341
Default

Well, it should also be taken into consideration that Ringo was a ground breaker in one aspect...he got equal billing with the rest of the Beatles. Up until that time, (the early 60's), the band members were an afterthought. Buddy Holly and the Crickets, Bill Haley and the Comets, etc, etc. Ringo learned to play the drums in the 50's, when all there was to drumming was keeping the beat for the 'real' act, the singer. Also, he came from a lot tamer time, as well. Flambouancy was limited.

Liberace, Elvis, Jerry Lee Lewis, Little Richard. That was about it, as far as being flashy. Oddly enough, three of those four played piano. Other than Buddy Rich in the 50's, and Gene Krupa before that, there were no drummers with flash. That simply wasn't how music was built back then.

Without googling, can anyone name 5-10 drummers from bands before the Beatles? I certainly can't. Ringo may not have been innovative or much of a free spirit, but her certainly blazed a trail for drummers that still carries on today. He brought drummers to the fore, perhaps inspiring the John Bohnams and Keith Moons and Noel Reddings and Ginger Bakers of the world to follow his cue, grab some spotlight of their own.

Those drummers of the mid to late 60's took the backbone of rock and roll, the drums, and experimented, expanded, evolved. In my opinion, that was the evolution of drumming. Right after Ringo, into the 70's. It got wild!!

No, Ringo didn't invent it, but he certainly changed the drummer's role in rock and roll. After Ringo, the drummer was no longer the guy in the back that no one ever noticed unless he screwed up.

He wasn't a crap drummer. He wasn't a great drummer. He was simply the drummer, and he got his picture taken with the guitartists and the bassist. Equal billing. A first in rock and roll.
__________________
Be strong then, and enter into your own body;
there you have a solid place for your feet. ~ Kabir
jr. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2006, 08:21 PM   #54 (permalink)
Me llamo Marijan
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Kuala Lumpur
Posts: 6,987
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jr.
Well, it should also be taken into consideration that Ringo was a ground breaker in one aspect...he got equal billing with the rest of the Beatles. Up until that time, (the early 60's), the band members were an afterthought. Buddy Holly and the Crickets, Bill Haley and the Comets, etc, etc. Ringo learned to play the drums in the 50's, when all there was to drumming was keeping the beat for the 'real' act, the singer. Also, he came from a lot tamer time, as well. Flambouancy was limited.

Liberace, Elvis, Jerry Lee Lewis, Little Richard. That was about it, as far as being flashy. Oddly enough, three of those four played piano. Other than Buddy Rich in the 50's, and Gene Krupa before that, there were no drummers with flash. That simply wasn't how music was built back then.

Without googling, can anyone name 5-10 drummers from bands before the Beatles? I certainly can't. Ringo may not have been innovative or much of a free spirit, but her certainly blazed a trail for drummers that still carries on today. He brought drummers to the fore, perhaps inspiring the John Bohnams and Keith Moons and Noel Reddings and Ginger Bakers of the world to follow his cue, grab some spotlight of their own.

Those drummers of the mid to late 60's took the backbone of rock and roll, the drums, and experimented, expanded, evolved. In my opinion, that was the evolution of drumming. Right after Ringo, into the 70's. It got wild!!

No, Ringo didn't invent it, but he certainly changed the drummer's role in rock and roll. After Ringo, the drummer was no longer the guy in the back that no one ever noticed unless he screwed up.

He wasn't a crap drummer. He wasn't a great drummer. He was simply the drummer, and he got his picture taken with the guitartists and the bassist. Equal billing. A first in rock and roll.
wow....as usual, your posts are far and few between, but as wise as always....i have to agree with everything you said....and i bow down to you oh wise buddhist spirit of music banter....
adidasss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2006, 08:23 PM   #55 (permalink)
jr.
Seeker of Peace
 
jr.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Newark, De.
Posts: 341
Default

Good grief. How embarrassing. LOLOL.
__________________
Be strong then, and enter into your own body;
there you have a solid place for your feet. ~ Kabir
jr. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2006, 09:51 AM   #56 (permalink)
Account Disabled
 
boo boo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Where the buffalo roam.
Posts: 12,137
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jr.
Well, it should also be taken into consideration that Ringo was a ground breaker in one aspect...he got equal billing with the rest of the Beatles. Up until that time, (the early 60's), the band members were an afterthought. Buddy Holly and the Crickets, Bill Haley and the Comets, etc, etc. Ringo learned to play the drums in the 50's, when all there was to drumming was keeping the beat for the 'real' act, the singer. Also, he came from a lot tamer time, as well. Flambouancy was limited.

Liberace, Elvis, Jerry Lee Lewis, Little Richard. That was about it, as far as being flashy. Oddly enough, three of those four played piano. Other than Buddy Rich in the 50's, and Gene Krupa before that, there were no drummers with flash. That simply wasn't how music was built back then.

Without googling, can anyone name 5-10 drummers from bands before the Beatles? I certainly can't. Ringo may not have been innovative or much of a free spirit, but her certainly blazed a trail for drummers that still carries on today. He brought drummers to the fore, perhaps inspiring the John Bohnams and Keith Moons and Noel Reddings and Ginger Bakers of the world to follow his cue, grab some spotlight of their own.

Those drummers of the mid to late 60's took the backbone of rock and roll, the drums, and experimented, expanded, evolved. In my opinion, that was the evolution of drumming. Right after Ringo, into the 70's. It got wild!!

No, Ringo didn't invent it, but he certainly changed the drummer's role in rock and roll. After Ringo, the drummer was no longer the guy in the back that no one ever noticed unless he screwed up.

He wasn't a crap drummer. He wasn't a great drummer. He was simply the drummer, and he got his picture taken with the guitartists and the bassist. Equal billing. A first in rock and roll.
Dont mean to be a smartass but Noel Redding was the bass player for The Experience, i think you mean Mitch Mitchell.
boo boo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2006, 06:30 PM   #57 (permalink)
jr.
Seeker of Peace
 
jr.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Newark, De.
Posts: 341
Default

You know, I thought about that at work today. LOL. I have never been able to keep those two straight.
__________________
Be strong then, and enter into your own body;
there you have a solid place for your feet. ~ Kabir
jr. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-2006, 07:08 PM   #58 (permalink)
Music Addict
 
Decoy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 272
Default

he did what he had to do. He was a terrible drummer but it's not like he was asked upon to do alot. He sang a few songs and got the job done.
__________________
www.decoygenocide.com/gallery.html


“Football is a fertility festival. Eleven sperm trying to get into the egg. I feel sorry for the goalkeeper.”
Decoy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2006, 12:22 AM   #59 (permalink)
Account Disabled
 
boo boo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Where the buffalo roam.
Posts: 12,137
Default

Yay, another Bjork fan.
boo boo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2006, 10:08 AM   #60 (permalink)
Modern Drummer
 
Soundgardener's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 947
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Decoy
He was a terrible drummer but it's not like he was asked upon to do alot.
Have you not learned anything from this thread? Just because he didn't play like Neil Peart doesn't mean he wasn't an amazing drummer. Drummers that play for the song instead of playing for themselves or showing off are much better in my book.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by boo boo View Post
Mr Bungle >>> Your soul
Soundgardener is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Similar Threads



© 2003-2019 Advameg, Inc.

SEO by vBSEO 3.5.2 ©2010, Crawlability, Inc.