Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 875713)

-1 for America.

Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog (Post 875754)

Normally I'd give you that, Alex my man, but I've had everyone from musical scholars to the check-out guy at the supermarket tell me too much about all three of those guys.

To me there a big detraction.

Originally Posted by Alex/ (Post 875900)

Yes, I know it's very cool to post some kind of one-liner like that. It makes you look very cool. Some actual effort wouldn't hurt anyone.

I'm not talking about Creed, or Nickelback, or Godsmack, or any of that other garbage that grunge spawned. I'm talking about the real stuff. Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, Temple of the Dog, Mad Season, Nirvana. The list goes on.

Did it go a little overboard in popularity? Sure, yeah. "Smells Like Teen Spirit" is one overplayed song. But you can't deny that Superunknown, Ten, and Dirt are some of the best rock albums ever produced. Especially in the last 20 years..

Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt (Post 875908)

Some people just aren't that into Grunge.. so they can deny it's one of the best rock albums of the last 20 years if they don't give a shit about the genre.

Originally Posted by james44754 (Post 875912)

Grunge is meh.
I hate how The Pixies are put under that ****.
Soundgarden and SP are alright.

Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt (Post 875914)

You hate how The Pixies are put under that label but it's okay to put Smashing Pumpkins under it? Pixies and SP aren't grunge at all.

Originally Posted by Alex/ (Post 875915)

Hey, Smashing Pumpkins. Another awesome American band.

Originally Posted by james44754 (Post 875925)

Well I love The Pixies.
I like SP but not enough to get pissed about their genre classification.

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 875563)

Really?

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 875954)

Who's being defensive?

I was just showing that Brits did this sort of thing just as well too.

You don't see me trying to argue that Brits do blues or country or hip hop better do you?

Originally Posted by Violent & Funky (Post 875955)

Or funk...

Originally Posted by Tuna (Post 875956)

You pick your arguments wisely I suppose.

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 875957)

Not in the traditional sense but there were some great British post punk bands that used funk as a base for their sound.

Not that I would argue they were better. Two totally different things.

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 875960)

Gang of Four are f*cking horrible.

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 875960)

Try A Certain Ratio , The Au Pairs & The Pop Group

Originally Posted by Violent & Funky (Post 875959)

Like Gang of Four? I would love if somebody could recommend a band with a similar sound because I love me some Entertainment!...

Originally Posted by Tuna (Post 875962)

For me it's all about the Brits in the 60s and 70s for rock

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 875960)

Gang of Four are f*cking horrible.

Try A Certain Ratio , The Au Pairs & The Pop Group

Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog (Post 875966)

We had MoTown though.

Originally Posted by Alex/ (Post 875900)

Yes, I know it's very cool to post some kind of one-liner like that. It makes you look very cool. Some actual effort wouldn't hurt anyone.

Originally Posted by Alex/ (Post 875900)

I'm not talking about Creed, or Nickelback, or Godsmack, or any of that other garbage that grunge spawned. I'm talking about the real stuff. Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, Temple of the Dog, Mad Season, Nirvana. The list goes on.

Did it go a little overboard in popularity? Sure, yeah. "Smells Like Teen Spirit" is one overplayed song. But you can't deny that Superunknown, Ten, and Dirt are some of the best rock albums ever produced. Especially in the last 20 years.

Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 875997)

Thanks for the advice twenty-posts. :rolleyes:


Yes, I understand what you're talking about when you say grunge. And, no, I don't think any of the albums you mentioned deserve to be described as some of the best rock albums ever produced. I was in my teens during the heyday of grunge and it didn't seem particularly exciting or groundbreaking to me at the time. Needless to say I haven't found that gotten any fresher in the intervening two decades.

Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog (Post 876022)

This thread is about to turn hillbilly-ugly. Maybe, to be more fair to our british friends we should break America into regions.

Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog (Post 876022)

This thread is about to turn hillbilly-ugly. Maybe, to be more fair to our british friends we should break America into regions.

Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt (Post 876025)

There's not really much point to a thread like this. Everyone will defend their own, the only conclusion is people have preferences but they're both really well matched. Still, I enjoy the debates that take place in here. This thread made me realise British music from the 00s has been a bit pathetic. :(

Originally Posted by Tuna (Post 875963)

How about the Minutemen or Mission of Burma from AMERICA :D

Originally Posted by Violent & Funky (Post 876040)

If it makes you feel any better, I prefer British music from the 00s more than any other decade...

Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt (Post 876043)

But you barely like any bands from Britain from the 00s, just a handful. :( It makes me sad that America really have dominated the 00s, unless there's a few bands from Britain out there I don't know about that produced great stuff in the 00s.

Originally Posted by Violent & Funky (Post 876047)

A handful is not bad considering I primarily listen to American funk/indie rock. The Arctic Monkeys rock! :thumb:

Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 875997)

Thanks for the advice twenty-posts. :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Alex/ (Post 876054)

Oh, but you're also one of those pretentious guy who thinks his post count and join date means something. That's good, man. Very cool. I'm glad you've established yourself as such an internet badass.

Originally Posted by Live Forever (Post 876017)

What are your favorite bands/artists?

Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 778843)

I have a pretty a hard time summing up my tastes but since you ask I'll give it a shot. To start with I would say that really anything that's unique and well done is most likely something that will appeal to me. Various kind of electronic music make up a sizable chunk of my music tastes, this ranges from older stuff like Kraftwerk to new wave to late 80s/early 90s electro-industrial and EBM to trip-hop and dubstep to IDM and breakcore to electroclash. I'm also big fan of loud music and/or music that rocks out pretty hard, this encompasses quite a bit—hardcore, grindcore, thrash, noise rock, stoner metal, death metal, etc. Some longtime favorites of mine are also singer-songwriter types like Tom Waits, Nick Cave, and Leonard Cohen. Aside from that I'm a pretty big postpunk fan too, with Killing Joke, PiL, Gang Four and Wall of Voodoo being some favorites. Then there's the jazz; I'm not a huge jazzhead but I do listen to a fair amount of it, mostly stuff from the 40s through the 70s. Beyond that I have a wide variety of stuff that I dabble in substantially—everything from hip-hop to 50s and 60s pop rock to latin music to african music.

Originally Posted by Alex/ (Post 876054)

Oh, but you're also one of those pretentious guy who thinks his post count and join date means something. That's good, man. Very cool. I'm glad you've established yourself as such an internet badass.

Originally Posted by Alex/ (Post 876082)

I know spam when I see it, I don't need a high post count to qualify for that. =\