MicShazam

Not being a huge rock fan, I don't really know about this one. Maybe hard rock in the vein of G'n'R died, but it might have been a victim of itself rahter than grunge. Even if, then it kind of reappeared in the 2010's, albeit as more of a metal thing. Puddle of Mud, Creed and that sort of thing seems to be what reigned the airwaves at the end of the 90's and in the 00's garage rock and twee indie rock was the name of the game.

Basically I'm trying to tigure out if I agree with your statement. If I was a fan of certain kinds of rock at the end of the 80's, it would seem that technical proficieny and rock star attitude almost died out in rock, only to be resurrected as a sort of metalized retro thing in the Swedish hard rock scene of the 2010's.

I might very well be wrong about every observation. This is just how things looked from the sidelines, as a music fan who's not necessarily a rock fan.

Also: Did certain kinds of rock really die out for 10-20 years, or did they just fall off the radio? I couldn't say.

Neapolitan

OK, the site is called Music Banter, if I want to talk music then I have the right to talk about music, that is what the site is about, that is what I signed up for. If you are going to follow me around and troll me, fine and dandy, just be aware I will start reporting you.

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Terrapin_Station

I had just asked you something two times in a row where you didn't answer.

I asked, "What are you basing your knowledge of who is/was or isn't/wasn't popular in the US on, just out of curiosity?"

An answer would go like this: "I'm basing my knowledge of who is/was or isn't/wasn't popular in the US on ______________" and you'd fill in the blank with details re what you're basing it on.

Terrapin_Station

Thanks. So yes/no, would you say that avant-garde experimentation is a feature that is found in some genres (genres not known by that name, since you're not using it as a genre name), and not found in other genres?

Chula Vista

1969. Zep wasn't getting any positive press. Didn't do any television. And were not embraced by critics like their peers were. They toured like mofos and word of mouth built the foundations of a massive fan base.

Hell, even in 1972 the Rolling Stones tour was the "big thing" and was being covered everywhere with glowing reviews - even though by then Zep was outselling them and outdrawing them.

That's why Zep hired a publicist for their 73 tour which resulted in them becoming the biggest band on the planet in the public eye.

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JGuy Grungeman

Yes. No more yes or no, please. I'm not in the mood.

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Key

Avoiding questions as usual.

Terrapin_Station

Well, 69 is when the debut album came out. Who had a debut album come out in 1969 who had the sort of media coverage that you'd consider "mainstream" in 1969? (Or pick someone whose debut album came out in 1968 relative to media coverage in 1968, or 1970 relative to media coverage in 1970).

Neapolitan

Emerson, Lake and Palmer came out of the gate as a "super group" with high praises from the press ... or at least that is how it is depicted in their documentary. John Peel had this to say about ELP *quote* "A complete waste of time, talent and electricity."

Grand Funk Railroad was the first band to match (or break) The Beatles record for concert attendance. David Fricke of Rolling Stone magazine had this to say about GFR *quote* "You cannot talk about Rock in the 1970s without talking about Grand Funk Railroad!"

Badfinger had four world-wide hits, from '70 to '72. They were hailed as the next Beatles, before their untimely demise.

Top 10 Best Selling Debut Albums in US History - TheRichest

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The Batlord

Does anybody actually care about this conversation or are you all just participating cause you have nothing better to do?

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