Unpopular Music Opinions

Live Forever · 06-03-2010, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by mr dave

i know you're being sarcastic, but i'm not when i say Oasis was cliched and generic. a handful of good singles does not make a great band.

MJ has become a necessary name to drop since he died and only because he died unnaturally. it was a challenge to find someone to speak relatively positively about him prior to his passing besides the kind of obsessed fans who've been with him forever and who didn't actually listen to anything else that wasn't spoken from the lips of their God.

Prince has never actually done a single thing for me.

Vampire Weekend and Gwen Stefani - AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA VW sounds like so many other pop punk bands that have come and gone only with even less edge and Gwen Stefani on her own is total rubbish. which was quite disappointing to see her play the pretty pop princess game for dollars rather than sticking to her guns the way she used to in No Doubt.

I brought up the fact that I mentioned those artists to debunk your idea that I think anything that isn't British and from the 60's-70's must be terrible. So there's -1 in your favor.

Hey listen, it's not my fault that every popular musician that dies because a bit of a 'trump card' for a few years after their death. I love Michael Jackson's music, and always have... memories of watching the Moonwalker film with the white suit, fighting gangsters, etc. from childhood. To this day I think you can put on almost any of his albums in a club and the night is set. That's my opinion plain and simple. I brought him up not to play a trump card, but as example of some 1980's music I like despite generally despising that decade and what it stood for. Excess and poor cliched production. As I said, **** the '80's. But I like Michael.

Prince is great, in my opinion. That is all on that.

Again Vampire Weekend and Gwen Stefani (an artist that I never defend career-wise, just that song) were brought up to once again debunk your UK/60s-70s nonsense.

Live Forever · 06-03-2010, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Antonio

i think what he's implying is that Zep were better at ripping off blues bands than the Stones were

Basically. Not to mention some legendary original tunes of theirs.

That's like people who complain that Jay-Z "bites" Biggie too much... well if you count up all of the ORIGINAL stuff that Jay-Z raps and take out the Biggie lines... he is still one of the greatest rappers of all time.

Help has covers all over the place, and some of the original rip off the style of many artist of the era. Does that mean it's a bad album? Negative

Live Forever · 06-03-2010, 11:20 AM

I'm not getting into the Oasis argument, it's not even worth it.

All I have to say is how you act off the mic has nothing to do with your musical prowess, whether you are humble as can be or a complete ****.

As for Led Zeppelin's sales, I never once will/have claimed that it has a correlation to their abilities as songwriters/musicians, but I think it does have some weight in the idea that someone might think of them as one of the top bands of all time. Has nothing to do with their music though, which is fantastic.

Led Zeppelin, The Beatles, Michael Jackson, Elvis, Frank Sinatra, James Brown, or even nostalgia/decade acts like Nirvana, Oasis, G'nR', whoever etc. etc... these are all names of acts that experienced such a world-wide/historic level of success, judgement, and controversy that you can really only take them at musical face value. Once you start bringing the cliche'd nature of their sound, or perceptions of them in the media... you just get lost in non-sequetirs (sp?) and ad hominem attacks.

Who gives a **** if Lennon gave Brian Epstein a handjob... does that make "Across The Universe" any less of a good song?

Who gives a **** if Michael Jackson died last summer... does that change the riff of "Smooth Criminal"?

Who cares if "You Shook Me" is a blues standard... does that deny the beauty of a tune like "The Rain Song"?

Zeppelin is great.

Antonio · 06-03-2010, 11:15 PM

i think that you are my favorite new member.

~~TumorAttitude~~ · 06-04-2010, 10:18 PM

"Modern Life is Rubbish" is so overrated. I like it a little more every time I listen to it but I still kind of think it sucks. It just doesn't agree with me. I don't ALWAYS hate accoustic-y things. I love Elliot Smith and a few songs off Beck's "Modern Guilt" were brilliant and just his voice, drums, and a guitar, but "Modern Life is Rubbish" is just kind of boring.
When I first got the album, I was listening to it thinking, okay, this is Blur, I should like this. And I guess I thought I did, but I listened to it today and I didn't particularly love or enjoy most of it. I actually can't remember a single track. Damon Albarn hates it too, so I guess I'm in good company.

boo boo · 06-04-2010, 10:42 PM

How can you not remember a single track? I loved that album, consider it Blur's finest, and I don't see how it's very acoustic-y.

~~TumorAttitude~~ · 06-04-2010, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

How can you not remember a single track? I loved that album, consider it Blur's finest, and I don't see how it's very acoustic-y.

I don't know. Maybe it will grow on me. Maybe I was just in a really bad mood today. Its probably still my least favorite Blur album though.

~~Sansa Stark~~ · 06-04-2010, 10:56 PM

The Ramones are kind of boring

boo boo · 06-04-2010, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TumorAttitude

I don't know. Maybe it will grow on me. Maybe I was just in a really bad mood today. Its probably still my least favorite Blur album though.

If anything I'd say it's underrated. It's RYM rating is 3.65 which is criminal.

~~TumorAttitude~~ · 06-04-2010, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Paloma

The Ramones are kind of boring

Conservitives usually are. Just stay home, stroke their guns, and agree with Sean Hannity.

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Originally Posted by boo boo

If anything I'd say it's underrated. It's RYM rating is 3.65 which is criminal.

I just know from word of mouth and MB but thats kind of unbelievable.

06-03-2010, 11:20 AM	#2453 (permalink)
Live Forever Groupie Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 39	I'm not getting into the Oasis argument, it's not even worth it. All I have to say is how you act off the mic has nothing to do with your musical prowess, whether you are humble as can be or a complete ***. As for Led Zeppelin's sales, I never once will/have claimed that it has a correlation to their abilities as songwriters/musicians, but I think it does have some weight in the idea that someone* might think of them as one of the top bands of all time. Has nothing to do with their music though, which is fantastic. Led Zeppelin, The Beatles, Michael Jackson, Elvis, Frank Sinatra, James Brown, or even nostalgia/decade acts like Nirvana, Oasis, G'nR', whoever etc. etc... these are all names of acts that experienced such a world-wide/historic level of success, judgement, and controversy that you can really only take them at musical face value. Once you start bringing the cliche'd nature of their sound, or perceptions of them in the media... you just get lost in non-sequetirs (sp?) and ad hominem attacks. Who gives a ** if Lennon gave Brian Epstein a handjob... does that make "Across The Universe" any less of a good song? Who gives a ** if Michael Jackson died last summer... does that change the riff of "Smooth Criminal"? Who cares if "You Shook Me" is a blues standard... does that deny the beauty of a tune like "The Rain Song"? Zeppelin is great.

06-04-2010, 10:18 PM	#2455 (permalink)
~~TumorAttitude~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Purgatory Posts: 749	"Modern Life is Rubbish" is so overrated. I like it a little more every time I listen to it but I still kind of think it sucks. It just doesn't agree with me. I don't ALWAYS hate accoustic-y things. I love Elliot Smith and a few songs off Beck's "Modern Guilt" were brilliant and just his voice, drums, and a guitar, but "Modern Life is Rubbish" is just kind of boring. When I first got the album, I was listening to it thinking, okay, this is Blur, I should like this. And I guess I thought I did, but I listened to it today and I didn't particularly love or enjoy most of it. I actually can't remember a single track. Damon Albarn hates it too, so I guess I'm in good company.

06-04-2010, 10:56 PM	#2458 (permalink)
~~Sansa Stark~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: The Eyrie, Vale of Arryn, Westeros Posts: 3,234	The Ramones are kind of boring