Unpopular Music Opinions (lyrics, lead singer, rock, fan, solo)

swim · 03-20-2007, 05:23 PM

Bats and Mice is better than Sleepytime Trio.

sleepy jack · 03-20-2007, 05:28 PM

The Devil and God are Raging Inside Me is better then your favorite band*

*Unless your favorite band is Bright Eyes or Elliott Smith, who are not really bands. Other then Bright Eyes which is more just Conor and Mike fuck everyone else.

tdoc210 · 03-20-2007, 05:42 PM

rick james > pfunk

Seltzer · 03-20-2007, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by The Unfan

The rhythm was pretty basic if not bland and Morello didn't play the guitar too well, he just ****ed around with pedals until it made a fairly neat sound. However the 3 seconds of okay sounding solo-ing due to the sound being drenched in pedals doesn't save the other 3 minutes of redundant, boring, and all around poorly written rap-rock hybrid crap.

I think differently. Commerford had many great basslines and Wilk was a decent funky drummer with good feel (not amazing, just decent). Their rhythm section was definitely above average, even if there weren't polyrhythms everywhere.

I agree with you that Morello's noodling can get annoying/simplistic/repetitive at times, but that's only one of his dimensions - and to be honest, it suits the sound of RATM more than a lot of other techniques would.

But that's only paying attention to one of his dimensions so it's unfair to say that all he did was play around with pedals. He also wrote some jazzy solos with no effects (i.e. Settle For Nothing, Take the Power Back).

Not to mention some of the killer riffs like Sleep Now in the Fire, Guerilla Radio, Freedom, Killing in the Name of, Born of a Broken Man, Bombtrack, , Calm Like a Bomb etc...

I do think he's overrated though. But he's more than effects.

boo boo · 03-21-2007, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

RATM as far as i'm concerned are the ultimate hollow slogan band.
I realise what people here are saying in their defence but how the hell can you take seriously a band who's lead singer sounds like a petulent 5 year old chanting naive political dogma whilst being signed to Sony and appearing on MTV.

By similar logic no one should take Chomsky seriously because his books can be baught at a Barnes & Noble store.

I see nothing wrong with slamming capitalism by exploiting capitalism... After all, if you want people to hear what you have to say, a small crappy indie label just isn't going to cut it.

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There is no substance to it , the whole political thing is just a gimmick.
I didn't see them doing small benefit gigs to a handful of people just because they beleive in a cause,I didn't see them bringing causes to anyone's attention , all I saw was them jumping on bandwagons on causes that everybody else were talking about already.
For a so called political band I learned absolutly nothing new from hearing them. All i heard from them was a kind of naive 'Grrrrrr the government are evil Grrrrrrrr' rubbish which quite frankly anybody can do.

Other people cover these issues? So THIS is why they are the worst band of all time? My god, this rivals even your U2 are one of the worst bands ever because of Bonis sunglasses and cowboy hat comment.

I like Rage because they're talented musicians, and I like the aggressive style of their music, then add on the fact that Tom Morello is one of my top 10 favorite guitarists of all time. And god forbid that maybe JUST MAYBE some people like RATM because they like their music, who knows? I don't even agree with Marxism.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 03-21-2007, 12:54 PM

Nice to see you still don't look at the full arguement Boo Boo.

I beleive I covered what I hated musically about RATM in my first post , then the arguement turned to their political message so I gave my opinion on that.

But naturally you read the political posts and assume thats why I hate the band totally ignoring their music. Much in the same way you ignore everything I say about U2 putting the same boring album out about 6 times choosing to take a flippent comment about a hat or about Bono's mullet as the sole reason I hate U2.

Seriously if you are going to take the time out to berate me on such things at least read the whole thing.

Immortal Wombat · 03-23-2007, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by AlterReal

EMO NEEDS SO BADLY TO DIE!!!

You see EMO would want to die a worse fate for emo would be a long happy life.

And from the looks of thing hating RATM seem to be the the most unpopular music opinion.
Even though it is a known fact that rage rock harder than most bands from that era. More to talk about than all grunge bands and more exciting than britpop. RAGE OWN THE 90S!!

~~The Unfan~~ · 03-23-2007, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Immortal Wombat

You see EMO would want to die a worse fate for emwould be a long happy life.

And from the looksof thing hating RATM seem to be the the most unpopular music opinion.
Even though it is a known fact that rage rock harder than most bands from that era. More talk about than all grunge bands and more exciting than britpop. RAGE OWN THE 90S!!

Punk, metal, and jazz groups from the 90s that you've never heard of > Grunge > RATM

Moon Pix · 03-23-2007, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by The Unfan

The rhythm was pretty basic if not bland and Morello didn't play the guitar too well, he just ****ed around with pedals until it made a fairly neat sound. However the 3 seconds of okay sounding solo-ing due to the sound being drenched in pedals doesn't save the other 3 minutes of redundant, boring, and all around poorly written rap-rock hybrid crap.

I would agree with this but I dont think the fact that a guitarist uses a lot of pedals make them a sh*t guitarist. You need pedals to alter the tone. Some of his experiments and riffs are pretty decent but by and large their songs were pretty boring.

TheBig3 · 03-23-2007, 09:33 AM

Look, you know as well as I do the RATM beat Jesus in a rock off so I don't really know why you're getting on about them sucking. Jesus can't rap, get serious.

Secondly, RATM, like RHCP, were amazing on just uniqueness alone. Bands might have been doing similar things, but not everything, and not nearly as well. If not for Rage, the 90's (at least stateside) would have sucked a little harder. I remember we drove up to Boston (when I was in HS) just to go to a CD signing and meet them. We got lost and never made it but we listened to BoLA all the way. That god damn album is solid.

But trying to rock this train off its tracks...John Fogerty is the greatest American export, musically anyways.

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tdoc210 ashes against the grain Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: new hampsha Posts: 2,617	rick james > pfunk __________________ We went back there and they had come and hacked off every inoculated arm. There they were in a pile. A pile of little arms. And I remember... I... I... I cried. I wept like some grandmother. I wanted to tear my teeth out. I didn't know what I wanted to do. And I want to remember it. I never want to forget it. I never want to forget. And then I realized... like I was shot... like I was shot with a diamond... a diamond bullet right through my forehead. And I thought: My God... the genius of that.

03-21-2007, 12:54 PM	#386 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	Nice to see you still don't look at the full arguement Boo Boo. I beleive I covered what I hated musically about RATM in my first post , then the arguement turned to their political message so I gave my opinion on that. But naturally you read the political posts and assume thats why I hate the band totally ignoring their music. Much in the same way you ignore everything I say about U2 putting the same boring album out about 6 times choosing to take a flippent comment about a hat or about Bono's mullet as the sole reason I hate U2. Seriously if you are going to take the time out to berate me on such things at least read the whole thing. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

03-23-2007, 09:33 AM	#390 (permalink)
TheBig3 killedmyraindog Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 11,172	Look, you know as well as I do the RATM beat Jesus in a rock off so I don't really know why you're getting on about them sucking. Jesus can't rap, get serious. Secondly, RATM, like RHCP, were amazing on just uniqueness alone. Bands might have been doing similar things, but not everything, and not nearly as well. If not for Rage, the 90's (at least stateside) would have sucked a little harder. I remember we drove up to Boston (when I was in HS) just to go to a CD signing and meet them. We got lost and never made it but we listened to BoLA all the way. That god damn album is solid. But trying to rock this train off its tracks...John Fogerty is the greatest American export, musically anyways. __________________ I've moved to a new address