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YorkeDaddy · 02-14-2014, 12:23 PM

Several people have come out and accused him in interviews or to reporters even after his death when they had nothing to gain from it. Several of his former housekeepers or maids have claimed they were either told to keep their mouth shut or that they even saw things like MJ in the shower with kids ("CNN reports that Jackson's former housekeeper, Blanca Francia, has testified she witnessed Jackson in the shower with Robson when he was 8 or 9."). I refuse to believe these people are making these accusations after his death just to keep mindlessly tarnishing his legacy.

Black Francis · 02-14-2014, 12:38 PM

@Anteater

lol im not trolling you man i just think he did it that is all.

And i remember him settling some cases out of court and paying the family of the kids he "didn't" molest

Now im not saying all the charges against him were true im sure some were fake just to extort him but his pedo fame must come from somewhere so i find it very hard to believe no kids were ever molested in the neverland ranch.

**Goofle** · 02-14-2014, 12:41 PM

Was MJ ever certified with a mental illness or some kind of personality disorder?

YorkeDaddy · 02-14-2014, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle11

Was MJ ever certified with a mental illness or some kind of personality disorder?

I don't think anyone ever confirmed anything on this but physicians apparently speculated that he had body dismorphic disorder, which is a fancy way of saying he was potentially dangerously obsessed with his appearance.

I think I've also read that bipolar disorder ran in his family, but there's no way of confirming that really.

It is however definitely confirmed that he was addicted to various drugs, namely painkillers.

~~Soulflower~~ · 02-14-2014, 12:49 PM

Thanks Necromancer!

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Originally Posted by Anteater

Lol @ all the Jackson talk here. There's never been any hard evidence he did any of the things he was accused of, and anyone who has bothered to watch a documentary on him or saw even a cursory interview anytime throughout the 80's, 90's and early 2000's can attest that MJ might as well have been a 12 year old child trapped in an older body: the dude is so dysfunctional its a wonder he's managed to have sex with anyone at all. I doubt he's ever felt like a real adult in his life, so making friends with kids was probably easier for him than relating with people in his own age group or older. That being said, he always was an incredibly strange individual, but its precisely because he's so strange that there were so many attempts to extort him financially throughout his life. When you A. hang out with kids all the time, B. have a reputation for eccentricity and C. Are worth more money than Fort Knox...yeah, your pretty much the biggest target on the planet in a legal sense for anyone who thinks they can get away with it.

Wow someone who does not fall for "group think"

Excellent Post!

~~Soulflower~~ · 02-14-2014, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater

Lol troll harder bro. I explained things quite succintly in my last post. There are have been MULTIPLE occasions where people have tried to extort Jackson over child molestation charges since the early 90's, and guess what? No hard evidence was uncovered in any of the cases. Trust me, if there was actually something to any of those charges, something truly conclusively damning would have been unearthed and used as leverage. It was in a LOT of people's interests to prove Jackson's alleged pedophilia all the way back in like 1991...so why wasn't anyone able to prove it?

You just have to understand that if you can't prove a hard case against somebody with at a super celebrity level of coverage and exposure like Jackson was, then guess what? The charges were likely bullshit to begin with. I doubt the guy could even eat breakfast in the morning back in the 80's without ten reporters watching him through a window somewhere: if the guy had ever really touched a kid, you would have a helluva lot more testimonials about those tendencies from all kinds of 3rd parties. I feel sorry for the kids who were told by their parents to go along with their lies, but people will do anything for a million dollar handout. And nothing grabs headlines like a high-profile charge against the King Of Pop.

Another intelligent EXCELLENT post!!!

~~Soulflower~~ · 02-14-2014, 12:57 PM

He had some dependency issues with pain killers in the mid 90's but that had NOTHING to do with how or why he died. There was no prescription medication found in his body at the time of his death.

Only ONE drug killed him and that was, Propofol an anesthetic which requires a physician to administer.

He was NOT a drug addict as the sensational MJ bashing media would want you to believe. Michael had alot of medical complications such as Vitligo, Lupus, Insomnia etc so there were legitimate reasons for why he was using prescription medication, that does not necessarily mean he was addicted to it.

YorkeDaddy · 02-14-2014, 12:58 PM

I think you need to look up a definition of addiction l0l

~~Soulflower~~ · 02-14-2014, 01:02 PM

Dependency and Addiction are two different things sweetie.

Quite frankly, both are irrelevant when prescription medication is not the cause of his death

Anteater · 02-14-2014, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy

I don't think anyone ever confirmed anything on this but physicians apparently speculated that he had body dismorphic disorder, which is a fancy way of saying he was potentially dangerously obsessed with his appearance.

I think I've also read that bipolar disorder ran in his family, but there's no way of confirming that really.

It is however definitely confirmed that he was addicted to various drugs, namely painkillers.

1. BDD also infers that he wasn't able to conceive how others perceived him on a day to day basis. Its likely that many of the eccentricities observed in his behavior throughout the years stem from that deficiency, but we'll never really know.

2. Housekeepers like money too. Plus, I wouldn't take anything related to what Wade Robson says seriously about Jackson. After all, Jordan Chandler later admitted to lying after the fact despite sticking to his guns for a lonnnng time. Wasn't it last year that Wade tried to implicate the FBI in conspiring with Jackson to hide molestation proof? Maybe the real answer to all this is in Area 51!

Black Francis: Its easier and less financially painful regardless of who is innocent/guilty at trial to simply settle out of court. Hell, bands do it all the time.

As far as where the molestation implications began for Jackson...well, people also used to believe he regularly inhaled steam out of an anti-aging chamber and was dyeing his skin white on a regular basis. Guy is such an easy target that it surprises me that people didn't start accusing him of child touching right after Thriller came out in 1982...they could have had a nice payday.

02-14-2014, 12:38 PM	#7572 (permalink)
Black Francis Out of Place Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: in an abstract house Posts: 4,111	@Anteater lol im not trolling you man i just think he did it that is all. And i remember him settling some cases out of court and paying the family of the kids he "didn't" molest Now im not saying all the charges against him were true im sure some were fake just to extort him but his pedo fame must come from somewhere so i find it very hard to believe no kids were ever molested in the neverland ranch. __________________ "Hey Kids you got to meet the MIGHTY PIXIES!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbRbCtIgW3A

02-14-2014, 12:57 PM	#7577 (permalink)
~~Soulflower~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,304	He had some dependency issues with pain killers in the mid 90's but that had NOTHING to do with how or why he died. There was no prescription medication found in his body at the time of his death. Only ONE drug killed him and that was, Propofol an anesthetic which requires a physician to administer. He was NOT a drug addict as the sensational MJ bashing media would want you to believe. Michael had alot of medical complications such as Vitligo, Lupus, Insomnia etc so there were legitimate reasons for why he was using prescription medication, that does not necessarily mean he was addicted to it.

02-14-2014, 01:02 PM	#7579 (permalink)
~~Soulflower~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,304	Dependency and Addiction are two different things sweetie. Quite frankly, both are irrelevant when prescription medication is not the cause of his death