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Paedantic Basterd · 04-25-2011, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Jane

Doesn't almost every band? I'm not sure why Oasis get a harder time for having musical influences than everyone else.

Hahaha, because they've been sued countless times and openly admit to plagiarism.

Sweet Jane · 04-25-2011, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian

Hahaha, because they've been sued countless times and openly admit to plagiarism.

If you're referring to the similarity between Oasis and 'How Sweet to be an Idiot' by Innes, I'm sure they claimed it was unintentional. I know from personal experience that songwriters can be influenced by something (a little too heavily sometimes) without realising it, until someone says 'Hey, that sounds a bit like [insert other song title] by [insert songwriter]', so I believe that it could well be accidental.

Paedantic Basterd · 04-25-2011, 01:36 PM

The Beatles won a lawsuit against them for lifting the melody of Cigarettes & Alcohol, I believe.

Also, Fucking in the Bushes was lifted from (I think) a Hendrix song. There's a slew more of them, but I don't know them off the top of my head.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 04-25-2011, 01:38 PM

Highly unlikely
The melody from Cigarettes & Alcohol comes from T-Rex's Get It On

Paedantic Basterd · 04-25-2011, 01:41 PM

Yeah, thanks Urban. The fact is, I watched about 10 comparison clips on youtube a few years ago, and I can't separate them in my mind now.

Excerpt from wikipedia on the matter:

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An Oasis B-Side "Step Out" was originally intended for the (What's the Story) Morning Glory? album but was taken off after Stevie Wonder requested 10% of the royalties as the chorus bore a similarity to his hit Uptight (Everything's Alright). Instead it was placed as a B-Side on their single Don't Look Back In Anger. Also, because of this, Wonder, Henry Cosby and Sylvia Moy received credit for writing the song, along with Noel Gallagher. Also the single "Whatever" was initially credited as being written by the band's lead guitarist Noel Gallagher. A subsequent lawsuit awarded a co-writing credit to Neil Innes. Oasis were also successfully sued for $500,000 by the New Seekers after the song Shakermaker took its melody from "I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing". NOEL GALLAGHER has additionally openly admitted plagiarising a BURT BACHARACH hit for his B-side HALF THE WORLD AWAY. He had no qualms about revealing his pilfering of the Bacharach/HAL DAVID composed song THIS GUY'S IN LOVE WITH YOU. He says, "It sounds exactly the same. I'm surprised he hasn't sued me yet."

Dotoar · 04-25-2011, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

Highly unlikely
The melody from Cigarettes & Alcohol comes from T-Rex's Get It On

On the other hand, that's a pretty basic RnR melody after all. What bothers me more is their (Noel's) nonsensical lyrics woven around all those desperate Beatles citations.

Sweet Jane · 04-26-2011, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian

Yeah, thanks Urban. The fact is, I watched about 10 comparison clips on youtube a few years ago, and I can't separate them in my mind now.

Interesting, it's true there are similarities. These You Tube clips select very particular sections though; when I listened to some of those songs apparently "stolen" songs on their own, I couldn't hear what the similarity was with most of them, T-Rex's 'Get it On' aside, but then I've always known that one.

Howard the Duck · 04-26-2011, 04:51 PM

blues wanking suck, blues solos should be kept to minimum notes and simple

(pretty much aimed at boozinbloozin)

jackhammer · 04-26-2011, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Il Duce

blues wanking suck, blues solos should be kept to minimum notes and simple

(pretty much aimed at boozinbloozin)

Examples? I am not picking a fight either just wondering what sort of artists or tracks you had in mind?

Howard the Duck · 04-26-2011, 05:25 PM

blues wanking - Hendrix, Kenny Wayne Shepherd, SRV

tr00 blues - stuff Hubert Sumlin did for Muddy Waters and Howlin' Wolf, Buddy Guy solo

04-25-2011, 01:38 PM	#5504 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	Highly unlikely The melody from Cigarettes & Alcohol comes from T-Rex's Get It On __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

04-25-2011, 01:36 PM	#5503 (permalink)
Paedantic Basterd Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 5,184	The Beatles won a lawsuit against them for lifting the melody of Cigarettes & Alcohol, I believe. Also, Fucking in the Bushes was lifted from (I think) a Hendrix song. There's a slew more of them, but I don't know them off the top of my head.

04-26-2011, 04:51 PM	#5508 (permalink)
Howard the Duck Live by the Sword Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Posts: 9,075	blues wanking suck, blues solos should be kept to minimum notes and simple (pretty much aimed at boozinbloozin)

04-26-2011, 05:25 PM	#5510 (permalink)
Howard the Duck Live by the Sword Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Posts: 9,075	blues wanking - Hendrix, Kenny Wayne Shepherd, SRV tr00 blues - stuff Hubert Sumlin did for Muddy Waters and Howlin' Wolf, Buddy Guy solo