Top-50 All-time (Rough Draft) (country, punk, rap, albums, fan)

~~i get high sometimes~~ · 07-31-2007, 10:08 PM

What the fuck is a whinge?

MHDTV · 07-31-2007, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by i get high sometimes

No, we weren't, until you blurted in with ^^this post^^ no one was discussing cultural impact.

And even past that quote, where you mentioned cultural impact again, no one was talking about cultural impact.

Ok, I misinterpreted what we were talking about at first, but I still wasn't grasping for straws or anything.

Son of JayJamJah · 07-31-2007, 10:15 PM

This is a classic case of Blowhardus Maximus or "A Huge Blowhard"
A Blowhard is someone who needs only a statement to come from their mouth to be classified as fact. They are awkward in social settings as they view normal interaction as competition to see whom can blow hardest. Don't give them credence. They need the attention to thrive, without it they wilt like flowers so fragile.

MHDTV · 07-31-2007, 10:20 PM

Who is this directed at?

Frances · 07-31-2007, 10:32 PM

A whinge is a whiny complaint.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 08-01-2007, 11:20 AM

This whole notion that punk had more impact than hip hop is laughable.For a start hip hop became mainstream in the mid 80s & stayed there , thats around 20 years for those counting. Punk however started in 1976 & had burnt out by 1980 spending the whole of the 80s underground.And even then it was never mainstream in the U.S.
It could be argued that it became mainstream in the U.S. during the 1990s when Green Day and the like came around. But whether you regard Green Day as punk is a whole different arguement.

Oh and there is the small matter of Hip Hop outselling rock music for about the last decade too.

joyboyo53 · 08-01-2007, 03:01 PM

^ by suburban white kids who like to have dry sex to it... something they call dancing.

~~i get high sometimes~~ · 08-01-2007, 03:32 PM

I love your fabricated statistics.

"White suburban kids [who are the biggest market for this type of music]"

Show me the statistics that back that up. As far as % of the white population which consumes hip hop vs. % of the black population which consumes hip hop, it wouldn't even be close. It would be far and away the black population which has a larger percentage of consumers of hip hop. The fact that the black population only accounts for 12% of this country would be the only point that you could make towards your argument. Show the statistics that back up your claims or don't make the claims in the first place (at least don't make your claims using statistical measurments which you haven't provided to back them up)

joyboyo53 · 08-01-2007, 03:38 PM

you just showed them for me. over 70% of the country made up of whites. even if 100% of the 12.8% of black in the country purchase rap it still wouldn't compare to the amount of white people that purchase it.

edit -

here is a link with links to various sources backing up this claim... one even suggesting 70% of the music is purchased by white consumers.

Google Answers: gangster rap audience

jackhammer · 08-01-2007, 04:19 PM

---Green Day- Has been a relevant headline act for over 10 years. Five Huge selling albums, two Grammy winners, and a top notch live act on the scale of the Who. To me a no-brainer for the top 50 and maybe the best, most successful band of the decade.--

They are still sh[i]t though.

07-31-2007, 10:15 PM	#193 (permalink)
Son of JayJamJah Occams Razor Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: End of the Earth Posts: 2,472	This is a classic case of Blowhardus Maximus or "A Huge Blowhard" A Blowhard is someone who needs only a statement to come from their mouth to be classified as fact. They are awkward in social settings as they view normal interaction as competition to see whom can blow hardest. Don't give them credence. They need the attention to thrive, without it they wilt like flowers so fragile. Last edited by Son of JayJamJah; 08-01-2007 at 08:48 AM.

08-01-2007, 11:20 AM	#196 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	This whole notion that punk had more impact than hip hop is laughable.For a start hip hop became mainstream in the mid 80s & stayed there , thats around 20 years for those counting. Punk however started in 1976 & had burnt out by 1980 spending the whole of the 80s underground.And even then it was never mainstream in the U.S. It could be argued that it became mainstream in the U.S. during the 1990s when Green Day and the like came around. But whether you regard Green Day as punk is a whole different arguement. Oh and there is the small matter of Hip Hop outselling rock music for about the last decade too. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

08-01-2007, 03:38 PM	#199 (permalink)
joyboyo53 down the rabbit hole Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: the mountain called monkey Posts: 764	you just showed them for me. over 70% of the country made up of whites. even if 100% of the 12.8% of black in the country purchase rap it still wouldn't compare to the amount of white people that purchase it. edit - here is a link with links to various sources backing up this claim... one even suggesting 70% of the music is purchased by white consumers. Google Answers: gangster rap audience Last edited by joyboyo53; 08-01-2007 at 03:44 PM.

08-01-2007, 04:19 PM	#200 (permalink)
jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	---Green Day- Has been a relevant headline act for over 10 years. Five Huge selling albums, two Grammy winners, and a top notch live act on the scale of the Who. To me a no-brainer for the top 50 and maybe the best, most successful band of the decade.-- They are still sh[i]t though. __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

07-31-2007, 10:08 PM	#191 (permalink)
~~i get high sometimes~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 240	What the fuck is a whinge?

08-01-2007, 03:01 PM	#197 (permalink)
joyboyo53 down the rabbit hole Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: the mountain called monkey Posts: 764	^ by suburban white kids who like to have dry sex to it... something they call dancing.

08-01-2007, 03:32 PM	#198 (permalink)
~~i get high sometimes~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 240	I love your fabricated statistics. "White suburban kids [who are the biggest market for this type of music]" Show me the statistics that back that up. As far as % of the white population which consumes hip hop vs. % of the black population which consumes hip hop, it wouldn't even be close. It would be far and away the black population which has a larger percentage of consumers of hip hop. The fact that the black population only accounts for 12% of this country would be the only point that you could make towards your argument. Show the statistics that back up your claims or don't make the claims in the first place (at least don't make your claims using statistical measurments which you haven't provided to back them up)