Rock & Roll Timeline Part One 1950-1959

mixed meters · 08-24-2007, 05:43 PM

This is neat

Son of JayJamJah · 08-24-2007, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by right-track

Good to see the Isley Brothers and Jackie Wilson in there.

But where's Eddie Cochran?
'C'mon Everybody', 'Summertime Blues', '3 Steps To Heaven' and 'Somethin' Else'.

All essential for the 50's.

Thanks, an obvious oversight on my part.

Son of JayJamJah · 08-24-2007, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

No mention of skiffle?

That was a huge influence on the likes of The Beatles & other early British acts.

What song(s) would you suggest that fall into that criteria?

Music Man · 08-29-2007, 05:26 PM

"Every Song listed is either credited as rock and roll or as a major rock & roll influence."

By who? Please name some nationally and internationally recognized rock & roll authorities who make those claims.

""The Fat Man" is often as i mentioned considered the first song with a rock & roll sound."

By who? Please name some nationally and internationally recognized rock & roll authorities who make those claims.

"While you are correct about Jackie Brenston's Rocket 88, that was the credited name. Turners Kings of Rhythm were the band behind it, but it was credited to Jackie Brenston."

Already aware of that, thanks. But it's still not rock & roll. It's an R&B number based on the earlier R&B number "Cadillac Boogie".

"As for your other categorical claims, many different styles were melded to create rock & roll."

Already aware of that, thanks. But that doesn't make those "different styles" Rock & Roll in and of themselves.

True rock & roll was created by a mixture of Blues, R&B and Country. Bill Haley & the Saddlemen's cover of Rocket 88, or Bill Haley & the Comet's song "Crazy Man, Crazy"---are generally considered to be the first true rock and roll songs.

"In addition I could provide plenty of links that would classify them specifically as rock and roll so I'd say they undoubtedly fit under the umbrella of the genre."

Please provide the links!

P.S.--Having a website does not make one a music expert.

"Blueberry Hill is considered a Rock & Roll standard by the way."

By people who don't know the difference between R&B and true Rock & Roll. The original verson of the song that was recorded by Gene Autry, was neither R&B or Rock. Fats swiped the song and redid it into an R&B number.

Son of JayJamJah · 08-29-2007, 08:14 PM

Let's just say you're wrong about everything and move on.

I don't want to argue about trivial things like genres. I lived through the era and those songs are a big part of what got my older siblings and their friends into Rock and Roll. Check Wikipedia for the Blueberry Hill information as well as the Jackie Brenston stuff. That's just one of many sites that cover it. As for your "I already knew that" replies very annoying and condescending. You kind of suck dude! But much love nonetheless.

Fats Domino - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Here one's link that in a matter of a few paragraphs shreds most of your seemingly pointless arguments. Your posts in this thread remind me of the only poster on here I don't enjoy.

Frances · 08-29-2007, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JayJamJah

Let's just say you're wrong about everything and move on.

I don't want to argue about trivial things like genres. I lived through the era and those songs are a big part of what got my older siblings and their friends into Rock and Roll. Check Wikipedia for the Blueberry Hill information as well as the Jackie Brenston stuff. That's just one of many sites that cover it. As for you "I already knew that" replies very annoying and condescending. You kind of suck dude! But much love nonetheless.

Fats Domino - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Here one's link that in a matter of a few paragraphs shreds most of your seemingly pointless arguments. Your posts in this thread remind me of the only poster on here I don't enjoy.

I'm with you JayJam

Music Man · 09-03-2007, 12:50 AM

"Let's just say you're wrong about everything and move on."

^This is coming from the same guy who told us the Byrds recorded an album in 1963.

"I don't want to argue about trivial things like genres. I lived through the era and those songs are a big part of what got my older siblings and their friends into Rock and Roll. Check Wikipedia for the Blueberry Hill information as well as the Jackie Brenston stuff. That's just one of many sites that cover it. As for your "I already knew that" replies very annoying and condescending. You kind of suck dude! But much love nonetheless."

I would think a man your age could debate without making personal attacks.

I asked for a source that is nationally recognized as an authority on music. Wikipedia is a non-expert source, that allows virtually anybody to write and edit articles on virtually any topic, regardless of whether or not they possess any expertise whatsoever.

Fats Domino - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Here one's link that in a matter of a few paragraphs shreds most of your seemingly pointless arguments. Your posts in this thread remind me of the only poster on here I don't enjoy."

Actually, your own non-expert article shreds your own arguments. And I'm not concerned whether you or anybody else here "enjoys" me.

From your own source, emphasis mine:

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Antoine Dominique "Fats" Domino (born February 26, 1928) is a classic R&B and rock and roll singer, songwriter and pianist.

Domino's version of "Blueberry Hill" is CLASSIC R&B.

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His 1956 uptempo version of the old song "Blueberry Hill" reached #2 in the Top 40, was #1 on the R&B charts for 11 weeks, and was his biggest hit. The song had earlier been recorded by Gene Autry, and Louis Armstrong among many others.

The above is pretty much all the Wikipedia article says about "Blueberry Hill". The song is nothing more than an uptempo R&B remake of a song first recorded in the early 40's.

littledude · 09-03-2007, 10:39 AM

great thread, good read for sure.

Son of JayJamJah · 09-03-2007, 02:19 PM

Thanks Little Dude

Stay tuned for the next installment in a few weeks.

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Music Man Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: USA Posts: 202	"Every Song listed is either credited as rock and roll or as a major rock & roll influence." By who? Please name some nationally and internationally recognized rock & roll authorities who make those claims. ""The Fat Man" is often as i mentioned considered the first song with a rock & roll sound." By who? Please name some nationally and internationally recognized rock & roll authorities who make those claims. "While you are correct about Jackie Brenston's Rocket 88, that was the credited name. Turners Kings of Rhythm were the band behind it, but it was credited to Jackie Brenston." Already aware of that, thanks. But it's still not rock & roll. It's an R&B number based on the earlier R&B number "Cadillac Boogie". "As for your other categorical claims, many different styles were melded to create rock & roll." Already aware of that, thanks. But that doesn't make those "different styles" Rock & Roll in and of themselves. True rock & roll was created by a mixture of Blues, R&B and Country. Bill Haley & the Saddlemen's cover of Rocket 88, or Bill Haley & the Comet's song "Crazy Man, Crazy"---are generally considered to be the first true rock and roll songs. "In addition I could provide plenty of links that would classify them specifically as rock and roll so I'd say they undoubtedly fit under the umbrella of the genre." Please provide the links! P.S.--Having a website does not make one a music expert. "Blueberry Hill is considered a Rock & Roll standard by the way." By people who don't know the difference between R&B and true Rock & Roll. The original verson of the song that was recorded by Gene Autry, was neither R&B or Rock. Fats swiped the song and redid it into an R&B number. __________________ "Paranoid is just like an anchor. It really secures everything about the metal movement in one record. It's all there: the riffs, the vocal performance of Ozzy, the song titles, what the lyrics are about. It's just a classic defining moment." --Rob Halford of Judas Priest

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Son of JayJamJah Occams Razor Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: End of the Earth Posts: 2,472	Let's just say you're wrong about everything and move on. I don't want to argue about trivial things like genres. I lived through the era and those songs are a big part of what got my older siblings and their friends into Rock and Roll. Check Wikipedia for the Blueberry Hill information as well as the Jackie Brenston stuff. That's just one of many sites that cover it. As for your "I already knew that" replies very annoying and condescending. You kind of suck dude! But much love nonetheless. Fats Domino - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Here one's link that in a matter of a few paragraphs shreds most of your seemingly pointless arguments. Your posts in this thread remind me of the only poster on here I don't enjoy. Last edited by Son of JayJamJah; 08-29-2007 at 10:39 PM.

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