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Old 09-08-2010, 06:04 PM   #781 (permalink)
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I love Steely Dan, but aside from maybe Aja, I'm not going to sit and listen to any of their albums start to finish. I'd rather just happen to have a playlist of the songs I love. A Decade of Steely Dan pretty much fits that bill.
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You're missing out young man,Countdown To Ecstasy might even be better and Pretzel Logic is great fun.Loads of great tracks that arn't near the Best-Of.
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Old 09-08-2010, 06:11 PM   #782 (permalink)
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It's hilarious how everyone chooses to ignore it when i mention that they are christian liars

I think there are probably plenty of things which aren't brutal which would make a baby cry...

But so yea... I guess I'm doomed to dislike slayer forever.
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Old 09-08-2010, 07:09 PM   #783 (permalink)
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It's hilarious how everyone chooses to ignore it when i mention that they are christian liars

I think there are probably plenty of things which aren't brutal which would make a baby cry...

But so yea... I guess I'm doomed to dislike slayer forever.
Well I pretty much hated them until this year, but now I like them, so you never know. I think they're the type of band to listen to for the badass riffs, and not much else. They're like the AC/DC of Thrash Metal, they only do one thing but they're pretty damn good at it. I only have Reign in Blood but it's just a kickass album to me, nothing more, nothing less. And about the Christian thing does it really matter? As long as the music's good who cares.
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Old 09-08-2010, 08:17 PM   #784 (permalink)
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Steely Dan throughout the 1970's, more or less churned out the same well produced jazz infused sound, and their level of consistency never really dropped...........therefore a greatest hits/best of is a good way to listen to them.
See now I think that when you have a band as consistently good as Steely Dan any sort of compilation doesn't do it justice. There's really no filler in their entire discography and they're not a singles band. They're an albums band. They make excellent albums. You should listen to them.

Of course, I don't like compilations very much anyway.
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Old 09-08-2010, 08:22 PM   #785 (permalink)
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The other reason I can't get into them is I can't get over what utter liars they are. I mean... they are christians. They are genuine, god-fearing, christians.
I'm unclear on how that would make them liars.
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Old 09-08-2010, 08:43 PM   #786 (permalink)
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See now I think that when you have a band as consistently good as Steely Dan any sort of compilation doesn't do it justice. There's really no filler in their entire discography and they're not a singles band. They're an albums band. They make excellent albums. You should listen to them.

Of course, I don't like compilations very much anyway.
I agree.., Steely Dan can lay claim to their own genre of music, some of the best produced (recorded) music Ive ever heard.
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Old 09-09-2010, 01:41 AM   #787 (permalink)
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So I just went back and listened to some of my slayer albums and I think I put my finger on why I don't like them. Honestly, their instrumentals are amazing. Like... f***in great.

But Tom Araya's vocals just irritate me. They are so horrible. I wish I could describe why I don't like them... i guess it just sounds like he's yelling over and over and over again with the same tone at the same volume level and it pains me to try to listen to a whole album of it. It just overwhelms the bomb instrumentals.

The other reason I can't get into them is I can't get over what utter liars they are. I mean... they are christians. They are genuine, god-fearing, christians.
Its like most groups, if you can`t stand the voice or the singing style of the main man you`re never really going to get into them. As for Tom Araya yelling over the music, it compliments perfectly given that its probably the only way he`s ever going to be heard.

Why are they utter liars? And why do you keep bringing up the christian issue all the time?
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Its like most groups, if you can`t stand the voice or the singing style of the main man you`re never really going to get into them. As for Tom Araya yelling over the music, it compliments perfectly given that its probably the only way he`s ever going to be heard.

Why are they utter liars? And why do you keep bringing up the christian issue all the time?
I'm curious too, especially considering Araya's Catholic.

I can see their frustration though, Sam Dunn brought up this issue in the 2005 documentary Metal: A Headbanger's Journey when he was asking about the title of their album God Hates Us All. Araya stated that God doesn't hate, but "it's a fucking good album title", or something along those lines. I know he used that interview as a segue for going to Norway and interviewing some of the '90's black metal bands as well as a preacher who worked at one of the churches that was burned down.
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I'm curious too, especially considering Araya's Catholic.

I can see their frustration though, Sam Dunn brought up this issue in the 2005 documentary Metal: A Headbanger's Journey when he was asking about the title of their album God Hates Us All. Araya stated that God doesn't hate, but "it's a fucking good album title", or something along those lines. I know he used that interview as a segue for going to Norway and interviewing some of the '90's black metal bands as well as a preacher who worked at one of the churches that was burned down.
I love that documentary. Best part was when they interviewed Mayhem. "We are the best fooking metal band in the world...if you don't like it...fook you". Classic.
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Old 09-09-2010, 10:32 AM   #790 (permalink)
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I'm curious too, especially considering Araya's Catholic.

I can see their frustration though, Sam Dunn brought up this issue in the 2005 documentary Metal: A Headbanger's Journey when he was asking about the title of their album God Hates Us All. Araya stated that God doesn't hate, but "it's a fucking good album title", or something along those lines. I know he used that interview as a segue for going to Norway and interviewing some of the '90's black metal bands as well as a preacher who worked at one of the churches that was burned down.
I know this documentary well, and I`d agree with Tom Araya`s assessment in that it was chosen as a great sounding album title. It also rates as one of my all time favourite Slayer albums to boot as well.

As for true anti-christian values, I only really think of the Norwegian black metal bands as violently expressing these opinions.
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