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really mediocre Bowie, IMO

I was about to get all defensive, but then I thought about this album compared to some other Bowie classics. I guess it doesn't quite measure up. I really respect how experimental this album is, though...and it is still really good. I have certain moods where I really feel like listening to it. But yeah, it's no Hunky Dory.

songwriting is more than just lyrics. for loveless the lyrics are mostly unintelligible anyways.

holy crap i had no idea. kind of funny that i found out about the band from The Crow soundtrack.

actually i just dug around a bit now... Lee's daughter only became the singer when the band reformed as a duo in 2003. Beth Thompson was the original vocalist (and the one in that clip).

Oddly enough, this is the only Bowie I really dig. Different strokes for different folks I suppose.

Mediocre!!! The songs on the first side are virtually all brilliant and the soundscapes on the other side contains some of the most beautiful eerily bleak original and influential experimental music you'll ever hear. Low is indisputably a classic.

I think Low is pretty overrated actually and not nearly as experimental or dark as people always say it is.

I guess I never entertained the downright retarded theory that the songs on Loveless were poorly done in any way at all.

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Have you ever even listened to it?

Ah, damn...that makes it a little less cool. Oh well, it's still interesting. Great freakin band for sure.

Yes, obviously.

Yeah, and as I mentioned in my post you are not alone, Janszoon. It is good, but just not as monumental as its reputation suggests.

Everytime I'm in a mode where I'm listening to stuff like Gary Numan, Kraftwerk and The Idiot I wind up throwing Low on. After a several minutes of skipping track after track I begin to remember why I don't listen to it much.

I'm actually quite the same way. I got Low way before I listened to Kraftwerk or anything Low took inspiration from, but now that I do listen to them I rarely want to put Low on. I respect David Bowie for attempting it, and by all accounts he pretty much succeeded...I just really feel like listening to other things.

I went the opposite way and got Low after all that other stuff, which might be why I've always been disappointed by it.

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I've not heard this one in a while, so I need to revisit it. I tend to revisit albums I didn't like a while ago, and I end up liking them. But I never got the fuss about this album, it sounded quite mediocre to me.

I can see why it might seem over-rated. I've not heard it for years 'cause I hate it's politics but it's highlights are very high, so to speak. Damaged goods is the one for me.

This album has some of the best lyrical content of anything ever written, brilliant guitar work on each and every song, and the things the bass and drums do are orgasmic. Go love it.

I think I remember the lyrics being some what underwhelming. I'll give it another listen later and see if my opinion of it has changed.

yeah, Entertainment! is one of the best albums ever. Not to sound like an *******, but you just have to GET it

My love for Entertainment is well documented :D
You're welcome ;)

Oh come on, you're Urban Hatemonger, you know your opinion is invalid.

Dawg you gotta get on board with this.

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Many lament this as Madonna's worst album, but I actually quite like it. I mean, with songs called ''Hanky Panky'' and ''Cry Baby'' it all sounds a bit juvenile, but it's actually quite amusing. Especially that werido creepy accent she does. :rofl:

Honestly, I find Entertainment! to be underwhelming too. It's certainly not sterile (I reserve that term for Stadium Arcadium) and there are a couple of tracks I like, but it sounds rather flat to me.

On the topic of funk punk, I'm not quite sure what I used to see in Double Nickels. I do like it but there's a shedload of filler and this is coming from someone who's grossly biased towards anything with nice basswork. How anyone can think it measures up to Zen Arcade is beyond me.

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really? DNOTD is literally one of my favorite albums ever, and even the filler is great with alot of the jamming they do on it. in all honesty i felt vice versa when listening to it along with Zen Arcade.

I've always seen The Smiths as a singles band. Really, really, REALLY good singles though.

Which singles?

This Charming Man, Hand In Glove, There Is A Light That Never Goes Out, The Boy With A Thorn In His Side, Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now, Girlfriend In A Coma, to name a few. The singles compilation is imo the best thing The Smiths have to offer.

I like Heaven Knows, but I'm not too familiar with the rest. I'll check em out.

IDK, the Smiths are just reaaaaaaaaaalllllyyyyyyyy dry. The instrumentation is nothing short of coma-inducing and frankly, Morrissey is a crappy singer.

I actually love the guitar work. Marr is one of my favorite guitarists along with Peter Buck who had a similiar style in his early days (arpeggio picking). There's no accounting for taste I guess. :P

I take it, you`re not from the UK with that ridiculous opinion.

He likes Linkin Park though. So that makes up for it :p:

I dunno, if you don't get The Smiths then you just don't get them and you probably never will. They're a very British band, their British identity is really strong. I think if you don't like Marr's melodic guitar playing paired with Moz's cynicism then you're just plain hopeless.

Jim McGuinn-Peter Buck-Johnny Marr.

The above is a good family tree of this guitar style.

They just don't do it for me. Neither does Joy Division or Pavement. /sigh

They`re very much part of the British identity as you say, so anybody into Linkin Park is doubtful to like them.

Given the depressive feel of Joy Division I can certainly see that. As for Pavement I love "Slanted and Enchanted" but not mad on anything else by them.

I think he intentionally sang flat in the early days. I love his voice though and as for the music being coma inducing well I guess you mean the slower songs like This night has opened my eyes, Reel around the fountatin and Last night i dreamt somebody loved me which are some of the most profoundly moving pieces of music I've ever heard.

Whoa, whoa, clearly I lack the appreciation for some types of guitar work, because I found absolutely nothing special in any of The Smiths' songs. I'll keep them in the library, maybe they'll grow on me

Agreed, Johnny Marr is an excellent guitarist. I'm not a massive Smiths fan by any means but I do really love his style of playing.