Is music dead as of 2008? (lyrics, blues, drum, bass)

infusician · 04-02-2008, 03:12 PM

I have yet to hear a song for the first time on the radio and like it from that moment. The only times that I have instantly liked a song were at music venues showcasing local talent. So sad that great music like this isn't heard on the radios. These people are the ones with originality!

Dr_Rez · 04-02-2008, 03:40 PM

Some radio stations here in Pittsburgh have nights where the DJ picks lesser or not know bands from the area and plays them. Many times its very good.

They probably do that where you live, you just got to watch out for it.

enemyat_thesix · 04-02-2008, 11:55 PM

dubstep is a good example of good basslines and boosted sub levels

Friday · 04-03-2008, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by adidasss

How does that change the fact that you made a stupid generalization? I'm glad that you admit to being a poseur, but let's not try to pin that label on "90% of this board" aye?

I admitted to finding it quite a good feeling to having discovered something that some of my friends have yet not, are you saying you dont? If so, then happily count yourself in the smaller percentage.

dog · 04-03-2008, 05:24 AM

radiohead's 'in rainbows' shows us music isn't dead.

adidasss · 04-03-2008, 05:28 AM

>Friday: Have you considered the possibility that perhaps 90% of this board are not like you? It's a crazy notion, but it's possible.

Like I said before, if I had friends that actually cared about such stuff, I probably wouldn't be here. You may or may not have noticed, but the reason most people join on line music forums is because of that very frustration...because they have no one to talk to about music.

tkpb938 · 04-03-2008, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by adidasss

Like I said before, if I had friends that actually cared about such stuff, I probably wouldn't be here. You may or may not have noticed, but the reason most people join on line music forums is because of that very frustration...because they have no one to talk to about music.

That, and in the case of some, like myself, wanting to find new music.

Rainard Jalen · 04-03-2008, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by adidasss

>Friday: Have you considered the possibility that perhaps 90% of this board are not like you? It's a crazy notion, but it's possible.

Like I said before, if I had friends that actually cared about such stuff, I probably wouldn't be here. You may or may not have noticed, but the reason most people join on line music forums is because of that very frustration...because they have no one to talk to about music.

Word. Like, what's up? Hardly anybody you're likely to come across in person has any particular passion about popular music at all these days. At the least, it's a rarity. It wasn't like this back at school, totally different story. Back in 99 I could talk freely about music and people would engage with me. These days it's almost a taboo subject. You don't talk about it because nobody knows sh1t about what's going on even in the charts, and nobody tends to have any particular tastes of their own. Nothing they feel passionate enough about to discuss, anyway. Sucky times.

GoodAnytime · 04-03-2008, 02:52 PM

Look, music is simply communication. Period.

One could make the argument that conversation is dead because it no longer follows formal rules or sitting rooms and tea. But to say something like that would make you sound ridiculous and out of touch with the world.

Music evolves, like every art form, but essential remains a dialogue we have with ourselves. Or monologue depending on your ego. We are in a fantastic time right now where we can choose the dialogue and setting rather than having only the "big five" to allot us our choices.

Talentwise, it doesn't just disappear from the planet. There are a lot of hungry musicians out there self-promoting, and dying for you to hear what they have to say. You can choose to ignore them or actually listen. The problem is that now it takes a little work.

Genres - To claim one is superior to another is just silly. A claim I read earlier saying that electronic music is the only innovative music is bogus right off the mark. Songwriting is about evoking a human experience - which may or may not have to do with manipulating sound effects. If it is done for a purpose to enhance the experience, great! If it is done for express purpose of masturbating to your superior technique then it becomes a marketing gimmick equivalent to the oscar mayer wiener song.

New songs - Ok, there is a mathematical limit to the amount of chords combinations and melodies that can be produced. But if that's all songs are then computers might as well replace us. Once again, songs are about relating to the human experience. A 1-4-5 combo might seem stale and overused but it is an essential part of western music psyche that has lasted hundreds of years. The difference is in the hands of a master it can come out beautiful, in the hands of a hack it becomes a bore. Just because you string together a new series of chords not heard on the radio now doesn't make you a genius. Anyone looking for the "brand new" is largely masterbating to their own superior music kung-fu and is not interested in music as a dialogue, only in music as a means to build up their ego.

Let go of trying to own music and embrace what is happening right now.

enemyat_thesix · 04-03-2008, 05:00 PM

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Genres - To claim one is superior to another is just silly. A claim I read earlier saying that electronic music is the only innovative music is bogus right off the mark. Songwriting is about evoking a human experience - which may or may not have to do with manipulating sound effects. If it is done for a purpose to enhance the experience, great! If it is done for express purpose of masturbating to your superior technique then it becomes a marketing gimmick equivalent to the oscar mayer wiener song.

again, i am not saying that non-innovative music is not good. the truth is, nothing more can be done sonically with the guitar/bass/drum format. every sound has been played, in one form or another. people can write new progressions, new lyrics, new melodies, but as a style it has all been done before

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04-03-2008, 05:28 AM	#86 (permalink)
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04-03-2008, 02:52 PM	#89 (permalink)
GoodAnytime Groupie Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Chicago, Il Posts: 8	sigh... Look, music is simply communication. Period. One could make the argument that conversation is dead because it no longer follows formal rules or sitting rooms and tea. But to say something like that would make you sound ridiculous and out of touch with the world. Music evolves, like every art form, but essential remains a dialogue we have with ourselves. Or monologue depending on your ego. We are in a fantastic time right now where we can choose the dialogue and setting rather than having only the "big five" to allot us our choices. Talentwise, it doesn't just disappear from the planet. There are a lot of hungry musicians out there self-promoting, and dying for you to hear what they have to say. You can choose to ignore them or actually listen. The problem is that now it takes a little work. Genres - To claim one is superior to another is just silly. A claim I read earlier saying that electronic music is the only innovative music is bogus right off the mark. Songwriting is about evoking a human experience - which may or may not have to do with manipulating sound effects. If it is done for a purpose to enhance the experience, great! If it is done for express purpose of masturbating to your superior technique then it becomes a marketing gimmick equivalent to the oscar mayer wiener song. New songs - Ok, there is a mathematical limit to the amount of chords combinations and melodies that can be produced. But if that's all songs are then computers might as well replace us. Once again, songs are about relating to the human experience. A 1-4-5 combo might seem stale and overused but it is an essential part of western music psyche that has lasted hundreds of years. The difference is in the hands of a master it can come out beautiful, in the hands of a hack it becomes a bore. Just because you string together a new series of chords not heard on the radio now doesn't make you a genius. Anyone looking for the "brand new" is largely masterbating to their own superior music kung-fu and is not interested in music as a dialogue, only in music as a means to build up their ego. Let go of trying to own music and embrace what is happening right now.

04-02-2008, 03:12 PM	#81 (permalink)
infusician Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: US Posts: 78	I have yet to hear a song for the first time on the radio and like it from that moment. The only times that I have instantly liked a song were at music venues showcasing local talent. So sad that great music like this isn't heard on the radios. These people are the ones with originality!