Any band can cite another as an influence. Iron Maiden said they were influenced by the Beatles but it doesn't mean that influence shows up in their work when you hear them.

Well aside from the fact that Vegetarians are always A plus douchebags, theres the fact that he has absolutely nothing positive to say about anybody or anything, and hes said a lot of things that are borderline racist, he even celebrated a mans death, he's a prick, simple as that.

Plus he just acts smug, even though his solo music is pure shithouse.

Yeah just listen to interpol for the first time a couple of hours ago and right away i heard the smimilarites

Getting back on track, Rage Against The Machine seems to have one of the most insanely loving and devoted fan bases ever, and a rather large one at that. On the other hand they're pretty much everything that makes terrible music rolled into one band.

1. Don't generalize about all vegetarians.
2. He wrote two books praising the New York Dolls and James Dean.
3. Don't pull the old "oh Morrissey is a racist card" it's not even remotely true and is against many things Morrissey stands for.
4. He said "Pity it wasn't George Bush" when Ronald Reagan died, that's hardly celebrating a man's death.

I just heard the song Atmosphere about 2 hours ago. I don't think anything Interpol did comes even remotely close to that. The song Digital sounds closer to Devo than Interpol. When you don't like a band you don't keep inventory of all their songs.

Tell you what. Pick what you feel are their 3 best songs and I will tell you what I think.

I love the lyrics to RATM but unfortunately their style of music grates on me.

Atmosphere is basically a black sheep amongst Joy Division's discography to use that as the benchmark for all Joy Division songs basically shows your ignorance. I'd listen to She's Lost Control, Transmission, and Isolation and tell me you can't think of plenty of bands who've ripped that style of music off.

#4 I celebated Reagan's death. The man was a terrorist and should have been locked up.

1. I every vegetarian I have crossed pathes with has been a self righteous f*ck. I guess I am being a little biased though.
2. Yeah, and he's called how many genres of music vile? Too f*cking many to count.
3. Thats why I said borderline. He does seem to hate all music by black people, so its easy to get that impression,
4. Ok, wishing death upon someone, just as bad.

what the hell ru talking about do you even think before u type or do random thoughts just come out

2. Like which? I know he's frequently insulted popstars like Britney Spears but if that's hardly a horrible thing.
3. He's a known fan Trojan Record's, a reggae label.
4. Nearly every non-redneck has wished death upon George Bush.

*Eternal face palm*

Look I'm no fan of Reagan (especially the whole Iran-Contra affair), but all this stuff about him being some calculating evil entity is just bullsh*t. He was just a senile old man with a very unrealistic view of the world. I wouldn't call that grounds for celebrating his death.

He also called all Reggae and Rap music crap. And couldn't even take a f*cking joke by Robert Smith.

Ok, so hes full of sh*t then.

George Bushs resignation is certainly cause for celebration, and the guy deserves a good beating, and some prison time. But I don't wish death upon him.

I mentioned 2 songs which were the last 2 I heard. Who said anything about using ant of those songs as as a benchmark.
Just listened to both those songs. Very 80's generic. The voice is horrible but most singers in the 80's couldn't sing. The electronic drumming (which everyone was doing) sounds awful. It's poorly produced. And I still hear absolutely nothing similar to Interpol.
Can't find that song except a 15 sec. clip.
Not the ones you mentioned.

Maybe you should look up the definition of tongue in cheek comments, Morrissey's pretty known for them. I don't even think he responded to Robert Smith's comment.

The drumming wasn't electronic and you're either deaf or indenial. Good day.

Listen to She's Lost Control and tell me that drumming isn't electronic. Sounds like some sort of electronic cymbal. No wonder you think they sound like other bands. You can't even recognize the instruments.

She's Lost Control - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

YouTube - Joy Division - She's Lost Control

Well wikipedia with its cited sources and that live version are obviously proof that you're right.

So yeah, only 35 posts in and I already hate this guy.

Lmao :laughing: I don't think Joy Division were big hitters on the disco scene in the late 70's.

He likes the Zombies and Eels so he can't be that bad, just very misguided.

Best argument against the smiths ever.

Fun fact! They created that sound by spraying deodorant into the mic.
I don't care if it says that in the Wiki's, i like fun facts.

You have to be retarded to not see the the smiths connection to the brit pop scene. I'll pull some vids proving this once i get home from school.

1.those were recorded in the 70's
2.the production was innovating producer Martin Hannet is often credited with creating Joy Division's sound
3.If you can't see the similarites to interpol then well you're deaf or just don't know what you're talking about.

Well if you don't account for their innovation and emotion in their music, then yes, you can say that. I don't see how one can deny that they were original because they were the start of nu-metal. Faith No More only influenced it a bit.

@Crowquill
You better watch out. You seem like the kind of person who could easily be trolled. If that guy was a troll I would say he made out pretty good. I lol'd reading the whole thread.

yeah but stating that they influenced Oasis is hardly the best praise you could lavish upon a band.

Considering all the other bands they influenced i'd say Oasis were one of the better ones to be fair.

i also can't stand joy division. i've tried to listen to them on several occasions and i just wasn't feeling it.

Well keep listening to them until you can. It is totally worth it in the end.

True, it took a while with me apart from a few songs (Transmission, Atmosphere, the usual) but it sunk in after a while.

I've gotta go with Limp Bizkit here. Fred Durst is a douche (see Artist That You Would Most Like To Hit In The Face With A Sock Full Of Rusty Quarters thread). My roommate back in the day was totally in love with these guys, and I really can't stand them. Their cover of "Behind Blue Eyes" sucked, and their cover of "Sanitarium" blew. I didn't know it was possible to suck and blow at the same time, but they pull it off.

You should know by now that a lot of people dispise Limp Bizkit.

:laughing:

Not an Oasis fan either.

Yeah, I know. But I still find alot of people that like them. In fact, my ex-roommate still likes them. She needs help.

That she does.

I did the same list on another forum and I got totally ragged on about Elvis Costello there and a few complained out me not liking the Smiths. There was not much mention of Joy Division except in agreement so I'm not the only one.

How could you not like Bruce? :yikes:

I think if the OP does'nt like JD, then that is his choice. Some of his comments have been somewhat misguided, yet the poor guy has been shot down in flames.

The problem is this: Certain bands are incredibly inspirational and influence a whole slew of bands and in JD's case, it is still happening nearly 30 years later. However if you never get to hear the original source and only hear varying degress of distillation through other bands, then you may not like one of the forefathers or appreciate just how innovative they were.

Joy Division, for all their influence on modern music are still an acquired taste and are not immediately accessible. I personally love them but my first taste of them properly (Unknown Pleasures) took some time to get into.

skip to 7:20 and watch to 7:48

Only melancholy Mancunians find mirth in misery.

No Brummies do too I'm afraid.

I bet Jackhammer is going to have a go at me about this one.


During the 90s I got sick of people telling me how great Faithless were , I just thought they were turgid dance music yet everybody I knew loved them.