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Zombeels 04-06-2008 10:56 PM

Artists you loathe that others love
 
I know others swell about these artists but I just can't see the attraction of these bands/artists

Smiths/Morrissey
Pearl Jam
Elvis Costello
U2
Joy Division/New Order
Guns N' Roses
Bruce Springsteen

What are yours?

sweet_nothing 04-06-2008 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Zombeels (Post 464817)
I know others swell about these artists but I just can't see the attraction of these bands/artists

Smiths/Morrissey
Pearl Jam
Elvis Costello
U2
Joy Division/New Order
Guns N' Roses
Bruce Springsteen

What are yours?

WHAT THE ****?

boo boo 04-06-2008 11:00 PM

This has been done god knows how many times.

If you want to hear people talk trash about popular artists just click a f*cking thread for gods sake.

Zombeels 04-06-2008 11:04 PM

Smiths are too boring and Joy Division is too disco.

sweet_nothing 04-06-2008 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Zombeels (Post 464824)
Smiths are too boring and Joy Division is too disco.

Joy Division Disco WTF!

sleepy jack 04-06-2008 11:24 PM

I second that wtf.

Zombeels 04-06-2008 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by sweet_nothing (Post 464826)
Joy Division Disco WTF!

Disco was a pseudonym for bad my friends and I used.

sweet_nothing 04-06-2008 11:27 PM

How are they bad Ian Curtis writes the best lyrics ever srsly

Zombeels 04-06-2008 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by sweet_nothing (Post 464829)
How are they bad Ian Curtis writes the best lyrics ever srsly

Your opinion. Lyrics don't mean much if the music sucks. Besides lyrics is half of what a good song is. Except for instrumentals.

sweet_nothing 04-06-2008 11:38 PM

the music does not Suck, then why did New Order become such a sucessful band?

sleepy jack 04-06-2008 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Zombeels (Post 464831)
Your opinion. Lyrics don't mean much if the music sucks. Besides lyrics is half of what a good song is. Except for instrumentals.

Well then that would make Joy Division on half-bad by your logic. Aside from that even if you don't like Joy Division they're still one of the most innovative and influential bands ever and deserve respect. If their music truly does suck so bad I don't understand how Interpol could become such a successful band when all they've done is rip them off.

sweet_nothing 04-06-2008 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill (Post 464834)
Well then that would make Joy Division on half-bad by your logic. Aside from that even if you don't like Joy Division they're still one of the most innovative and influential bands ever and deserve respect. If their music truly does suck so bad I don't understand how Interpol could become such a successful band when all they've done is rip them off.

I think you're going a bit far with saying that they ripped JD off. They were inspired by and took aspects but come on ripping em off?

sleepy jack 04-06-2008 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by sweet_nothing (Post 464836)
I think you're going a bit far with saying that they ripped JD off. They were inspired by and took aspects but come on ripping em off?

Yeah, in fact most of these second wave post-punk bands sound like a hi-fi version of Joy Division without the talent. It could be the most unoriginal musical movement ever seeing as none of these bands are even as good as Wire, Magazine or Joy Division or any of them.

Zombeels 04-06-2008 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill (Post 464834)
Well then that would make Joy Division on half-bad by your logic. Aside from that even if you don't like Joy Division they're still one of the most innovative and influential bands ever and deserve respect.

You missed the part where I said "your opinion". Sex Pistols were more influential and I think they were piss poor. Whitney Houston is influential...etc. As for most innovative, I don't hear it. I know people say it but none of the bands I like sound no where near Joy Division.

sweet_nothing 04-06-2008 11:48 PM

Naw. They just took what JD was building on like the sex pistols did with the ramones. Inspiration

sleepy jack 04-06-2008 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Zombeels (Post 464838)
You missed the part where I said "your opinion". Sex Pistols were more influential and I think they were piss poor. Whitney Houston is influential...etc. As for most innovative, I don't hear it. I know people say it but none of the bands I like sound no where near Joy Division.

Okay so just because none of the bands you like sound like Joy Division that means they're not influential or innovative? Very logical!

sweet_nothing 04-06-2008 11:52 PM

And how can u hate the Smiths srsly. If it wasn't for them u wouldn't have bands like oasis.

Zombeels 04-06-2008 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill (Post 464840)
Okay so just because none of the bands you like sound like Joy Division that means they're not influential? Very logical!

OK, start naming all these bands that were influenced by Joy Division. As for Interpol, I don't hear the connection.

sweet_nothing 04-06-2008 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Zombeels (Post 464842)
OK, start naming all these bands that were influenced by Joy Division. As for Interpol, I don't hear the connection.

How bout the Killers?

Zombeels 04-06-2008 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by sweet_nothing (Post 464841)
And how can u hate the Smiths srsly. If it wasn't for them u wouldn't have bands like oasis.

Smiths and Oasis, you're kidding me. Are you guys picking band names randomly out of a hat? I've never heard that comparison before.

boo boo 04-06-2008 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Zombeels (Post 464824)
Joy Division is too disco.

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah. I'm going to assume this is a joke account.

sweet_nothing 04-06-2008 11:56 PM

I've heard Noel say that seeing Johnny Marr play inspired him to pick up a guitar he even did covers like this

sleepy jack 04-06-2008 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Zombeels (Post 464842)
OK, start naming all these bands that were influenced by Joy Division. As for Interpol, I don't hear the connection.

Interpol (if you don't hear this you need to get your ears checked, listen to Evil and tell me that doesn't sound like Joy Division), The Strokes, Death From Above 1979, Franz Ferdinand, The Killers, Bloc Party, The Rapture, Liars, Xiyu Xiu, The Walkmen, The Futureheads, Pretty Girls Make Graves, She Wants Revenge, The Magnetic Fields, The Consantines, The Unicorns, !!!, The Exploding Hearts, Tokyo Police Club, Les Savy Fav, Cansei De Ser Sexy, The Bravery, Maximo Park, Portugal. The Man, The Rakes and dozens more.

boo boo 04-06-2008 11:57 PM

Yeah, that just makes me not want to like The Smiths.

But dispite that and the fact that Morrissey is the biggest tool in the world. I still like The Smiths.

And Interpol is just a lame Joy Division ripoff band, how do you not hear that?

Zombeels 04-06-2008 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by sweet_nothing (Post 464843)
How bout the Killers?

Killers are too in your face to be compared to Joy Division. A friend of mine (who likes Joy Division) describes them as "Drudgy" -Is that even a word?

sweet_nothing 04-07-2008 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 464849)
Yeah, that just makes me not want to like The Smiths.

But dispite that and the fact that Morrissey is the biggest tool in the world. I still like The Smiths.

:rofl:

sleepy jack 04-07-2008 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Zombeels (Post 464850)
Killers are too in your face to be compared to Joy Division. A friend of mine (who likes Joy Division) describes them as "Drudgy" -Is that even a word?

:laughing: Yeah the Killers weren't inspired by Joy Division at all. It's why they covered Shadowplay. How much Joy Division have you actually heard?

boo boo 04-07-2008 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by sweet_nothing (Post 464851)
:rofl:

Whats so funny? He f*cking is. If the opportunity strikes, I would punch the man in the face, no joke.

sweet_nothing 04-07-2008 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Zombeels (Post 464850)
Killers are too in your face to be compared to Joy Division. A friend of mine (who likes Joy Division) describes them as "Drudgy" -Is that even a word?

the Killers even did a cover of shadowplay! how can say u that?

sweet_nothing 04-07-2008 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 464853)
Whats so funny? He f*cking is.

No he's not how could he be explain

sleepy jack 04-07-2008 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by sweet_nothing (Post 464855)
No he's not how could he be explain

You don't know much about Morrissey do you? It's pretty easy to see why someone would call him a twat. Though compared to fellow Manchester fellow Mark E. Smith he really isn't that bad. Nicky Wire is a bigger tool though, after Michael Stipe came out Wire said he should get AIDS and stop making music or something along those lines.

Zombeels 04-07-2008 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill (Post 464848)
Interpol (if you don't hear this you need to get your ears checked, listen to Evil and tell me that doesn't sound like Joy Division), The Strokes, Death From Above 1979, Franz Ferdinand, The Killers, Bloc Party, The Rapture, Liars, Xiyu Xiu, The Walkmen, The Futureheads, Pretty Girls Make Graves, She Wants Revenge, The Magnetic Fields, The Consantines, The Unicorns, !!!, The Exploding Hearts, Tokyo Police Club, Les Savy Fav, Cansei De Ser Sexy, The Bravery, Maximo Park, Portugal. The Man, The Rakes and dozens more.

Bands I bolded do not sound anything like Joy Division especially the Unicorns. I can see the Rakes and Exploding Hearts and Pretty Girls Make Graves having some influence. Death From Above I've only heard one song and the other bands I haven't heard at all.

sleepy jack 04-07-2008 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Zombeels (Post 464857)
Bands I bolded do not sound anything like Joy Division especially the Unicorns. I can see the Rakes and Exploding Hearts and Pretty Girls Make Graves having some influence. Death From Above I've only heard one song and the other bands I haven't heard at all.

I repeat: What Joy Division have you even heard?

Zombeels 04-07-2008 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by sweet_nothing (Post 464854)
the Killers even did a cover of shadowplay! how can say u that?

Devo did a cover of Satisfaction. Does that mean they sound like the Stones. Really...c'mon.

sweet_nothing 04-07-2008 12:07 AM

srsly listen to Unknown Pleasures or Closer even Still will help you understand

sweet_nothing 04-07-2008 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Zombeels (Post 464859)
Devo did a cover of Satisfaction. Does that mean they sound like the Stones. Really...c'mon.

Why else would they waste their time? they even cited them as a key influence

Zombeels 04-07-2008 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill (Post 464858)
I repeat: What Joy Division have you even heard?

Unknown Pleasures and Closer.

sleepy jack 04-07-2008 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Zombeels (Post 464859)
Devo did a cover of Satisfaction. Does that mean they sound like the Stones. Really...c'mon.

Influence and sounds likes are two different things, while usually they go hand in hand sometimes they don't. The Killers are pretty obviously influenced by a lot of post-punk and while they're more showy and poppy it's really not much of a stretch for them to be influenced by Joy Division since they seem to be big into 80s music and Joy Division are not only arguably the most popular post-punk band but one of the best groups of the 80s.

sweet_nothing 04-07-2008 12:09 AM

give em another listen

sleepy jack 04-07-2008 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Zombeels (Post 464862)
Unknown Pleasures and Closer.

Really? Then how come you're relying on your friends description of them and not able to come up with your own for their sound? And how can you not hear the similarities between them and Interpol? Please explain the differences in their sound.


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