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Old 08-16-2008, 11:37 AM   #61 (permalink)
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Well I disagree there, I rate CTTE and Fragile just a tad higher than Relayer.

Anyway, some ones missed.







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Old 08-16-2008, 12:03 PM   #62 (permalink)
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I dunno either. I've been listening to bands like Black Flag and Suicidal Tendencies (I've always liked Minor Threat too but for whatever reason never got around to buying anything by them) since I was in my early teens, along with quite a few other hardcore and hardcore-related bands, but for whatever reason I find this particular Crass album inaccessible in a way the others aren't.

I'm actually listening to Yes Sir, I Will as type this. I hadn't listened to it in a while and this thread inspired me to throw it in the old CD player again. My feelings about it haven't changed much since last time I listened to it. It's not louder than other hardcore albums, it's not noisier, it's not faster, but it does seem more directionless. It has some decent moments here and there but overall I do still find it pretty inaccessible.
Musically Crass are almost closer to noise rock than to punk, so I would recommend bands like Big Black, Unwound, Melt Banana and The Boredoms if you're looking for something along the same lines. Yes Sir, I Will is pretty much a long political diatribe with the music coming in a far second, so yes, the music itself is completely directionless, but the lyrics are so pointed that it gets unbearable to listen to. Penis Envy is a much, much better album, where the message takes second seat to the music. Of course a lot of people (read: punks) don't like it because of the female vocals and probably prefer hearing about anarchy than feminism, something that is actually relevant to their misogynistic lives.
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i don't think i personally know anyone besides myself who can get into joy division...
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Old 08-16-2008, 01:26 PM   #64 (permalink)
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No? I'd consider Joy Division one of the best bands of all time.
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Old 08-16-2008, 03:32 PM   #65 (permalink)
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Musically Crass are almost closer to noise rock than to punk, so I would recommend bands like Big Black, Unwound, Melt Banana and The Boredoms if you're looking for something along the same lines.
Yeah, I like Big Black, Unwound and Melt Banana. The Boredoms are yet another of those bands for me that I've wanted to check out for a long time but never got around to getting anything by. Any recommendations on a good album to start with?

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Yes Sir, I Will is pretty much a long political diatribe with the music coming in a far second, so yes, the music itself is completely directionless, but the lyrics are so pointed that it gets unbearable to listen to. Penis Envy is a much, much better album, where the message takes second seat to the music. Of course a lot of people (read: punks) don't like it because of the female vocals and probably prefer hearing about anarchy than feminism, something that is actually relevant to their misogynistic lives.
I'll have to check out Penis Envy, it sounds like it would be up my alley. I certainly don't mind music having a message, but it does annoy me when the political screeds (or religious screeds or whatever) are placed ahead of making good music.

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i don't think i personally know anyone besides myself who can get into joy division...
That's weird. It seems like most people at least like "Love Will Tear Us Apart".
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yeah well most people i know can't get over how "good" jack's mannequin is... i actually played Love Will Tear Us Apart at work and ppl thought i was a weirdo or something haha
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AIDS wolf are pretty "inaccessible"
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Old 08-17-2008, 02:52 PM   #68 (permalink)
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I can't listen to Bjork. Swedish bitches be crazy.
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1. Bjork isn't Swedish
2. Racism is silly
3. Sexism is silly
4. Bjork isn't inaccessible; not liking something isn't the same as inaccessible
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Where you went wrong:

1. Bjork isn't Swedish
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4. Bjork isn't inaccessible; not liking something isn't the same as inaccessible
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