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Old 08-17-2008, 06:45 PM   #71 (permalink)
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1. Bjork isn't Swedish
2. Racism is silly
3. Sexism is silly
4. Bjork isn't inaccessible; not liking something isn't the same as inaccessible
I'd call Medulla pretty inaccessible.
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Old 08-17-2008, 07:33 PM   #72 (permalink)
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I'd call Medulla pretty inaccessible.
Well, my fourth point was an opinion dressed up as a fact, just because. Of course, there's some empirical evidence in favour of my claim, which is that Bjork is considered pretty mainstream and is highly popular, neither of which support her being "inaccessible" as music goes.
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Old 08-17-2008, 08:27 PM   #73 (permalink)
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Yeah, but Frank Zappa was a big celebrity too. I certainly wouldn't call all his music accessible.
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Old 08-17-2008, 08:32 PM   #74 (permalink)
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Where you went wrong:

1. Bjork isn't Swedish
2. Racism is silly
3. Sexism is silly
4. Bjork isn't inaccessible; not liking something isn't the same as inaccessible
Where you went wrong:

1) Sweden isn't a race, it's a nationality. If I were, I'd be xenophobic, not racist.
2) "bitches be crazy" isn't sexist.
3) "Swedish" isn't xenophobic.
4) And some of (admittedly not all) of her music is pretty fuckin' out there. So yeh, I consider her to be a little inaccessible.

So what, she's Icelandic, not Swedish. Bitches still be crazy.
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Old 08-17-2008, 09:01 PM   #75 (permalink)
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Where you went wrong:

1) Sweden isn't a race, it's a nationality. If I were, I'd be xenophobic, not racist.
"Race" has no specific definition and virtually any attempt to specify exactly what race is is doomed to failure. "Racism" colloquially refers quite broadly to applying qualities to groups based on nationality and ethnicity.

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2) "bitches be crazy" isn't sexist.
3) "Swedish" isn't xenophobic.
This is very, very weak. Singling Swedes out is racist. Among Swedes, singling females out (and calling them "bitches") is sexist.

The racism wasn't calling Bjork "Swedish" (that was simply misinformed). The racism was calling women of Swedish nationality "crazy." The sexism was calling Swedes who are women "crazy."

Saying "African bitches are aggressive" would be a similar example of racism and sexism.

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Dude, shut the fuck up. If you seriously think I was being racist and sexist, you have no sense of humor whatsoever.

Get the fuck out if you want to start making senseless accusations.
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grammar wars are incredibly immature, contribute nothing to a thread, and are 100% unrelated to any topic...
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Old 08-17-2008, 09:25 PM   #78 (permalink)
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Dude, shut the fuck up. If you seriously think I was being racist and sexist, you have no sense of humor whatsoever.

Get the fuck out if you want to start making senseless accusations.
Translation: "I can't defend my racism and sexism, so I'll resort to obscenity-laden ranting."

Fair enough.
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Old 08-17-2008, 09:53 PM   #79 (permalink)
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AIDS wolf are pretty "inaccessible"

Somehow they are even worse then their name.
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Metal Machine Music is probably the hardest album to get into, for me.

Either it's an elaborate joke, or it's like Ulysses by Joyce...a purely academic endeavour, an achievement to understand rather than an entertainment to be enjoyed.
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