he was a notorious champion of Afro-Caribbean music in the late seventies, hell reggae was punk before the bands started forming and playing in London at least. but apparently he's since become a massive bigot. so he probably doesn't talk to Don anymore, or that bloke who was in his band. i'm pretty sure he'll release a statement with his side of the story, so far all i've read is Kele Okelere's thing in the NME, which forgive me for saying so isn't quite the eye-witness fact-based journalism I require to decide the man who wrote 'Careering' is a racist ****

oh and the Noel Gallagher thing wasn't consciously racist, it was just ****ing ridiculous and highlighted the race/class divides in this country that we all already knew were there. And Bizzle actually had something along the lines of 'you black ****' spray painted on his tour bus while he was performing so...:rolleyes:

Noel Gallagher isn't racist, he's just a massively backwards closed-minded idiot.

That's what skinheads evolved into. It was a reaction by lower-class white Americans to the growing black nationalism movement.

he carries the torch for pub-rock like a true working class hero, la. oh sorry he's not from Liverpool *vomits*

I never said they were racist, I just said they weren't open-minded and loving but they're held in this awe and reverence by punk fans who supposedly hate that sort of bigotry. I just find it ridiculous.

"I feel very sorry for a man that needs to lie about what was a perfect evening…trouble was brought us, resulting in those causing the trouble being physically removed by festival security…If they need publicity so badly this is the allegation universe they run into."

"We are in the middle of a wonderful tour, after 30 years we are achieving a true unity in our audience. They are multi-varied, all ages, all races, creeds and colours. When you are at a festival with bands who are jealous fools, lies and confusion usually follow."

"Grow up and learn to be a true man. It's a shame that the wonderful world of the media is riddled with nonsense like this."

cheers sleepy. who to believe? they really should have beaten up that prick from Foals

I think a few people do not understand what I meant by race not being relevant in TODAY'S music. I understand completely that it was an issue way back when, youth should not be mistaken for stupidity...

We do understand, we are just filling the thread out with historical footnotes.

then I stand corrected. But on another note, I find it hilarious that Ricky Wilson of the Kaiser Chiefs stood in to 'back up' keke okereke in the fight.

And I think that if all those punks back in the 70's knew that one day Johnny Rotten would have an entourage, they would have threw out their safety pin dresses there and then.

Does it matter if music expresses racism...NO!

People have a right to their own opinion, and if music isn't true to the heart it ends up sucking...hard.