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Old 10-15-2008, 06:10 PM   #1311 (permalink)
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Well in Bono's case I think they guy is a hypocrite.

I just don't like the idea of a guy preaching to someone about worthy causes when he's doing everything he can to avoid paying taxes himself.

And I can't think of a single cause some rock star has bought attention to that I didn't already know about. The only one I could think of was Primal Scream protesting about the jailing of Satpal Ram , and even then it was just a flyer included with an album that you could either read and get involved with or throw away , no preaching , no whoring yourself on television , no 'celebrity'. Just an honest appeal without any of the bull****.
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Old 10-15-2008, 06:26 PM   #1312 (permalink)
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Lol, they probably made a big deal about it because Mitt Romney was a delusional conservative douchebag who considered voting for Clinton/Obama a surrender to terrorism and constantly talked about changing America from liberal to conservative (he even said Washington needed to be changed back to conservative because the liberals have had it too long, despite the fact his party has held the white house for the past 8 years and the democrats haven't done shit since they got the house.) He also did a complete 180 on half his stances he had when he was running for governor to when he started running for president and all that has nothing to do with the fact he hates the idea of seperation of church and state. I don't know why you think Mitt Romney would save the American economy either, the man is a big believer in Bush and Reaganomics.


Don't get me wrong, I didn't like him, but he has a degree in economics and turned the huge Mass deficit into a surplus while he was govenor.

On social issues, yeah, believe me, I probably despise him more than you, and Im not saying he's a good candadite. All Im saying is that strictly economically, from what I've heard (and theres always someone thats heard more no matter who you are-thats why I rarely get in political arguments) he'd be able to handle the economy better than McCain and Obama.

But by all means, he's still a terrible candadite, I agree with you there.
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Old 10-15-2008, 06:35 PM   #1313 (permalink)
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I'm not apathetic to causes

I'm apathetic to rock stars bleating on about them.
You obviously aren't apathetic if it is in the top 5 things that piss you off about music.


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Old 10-15-2008, 07:13 PM   #1314 (permalink)
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You obviously aren't apathetic if it is in the top 5 things that piss you off about music.


I'm a human being. I have changes of mood and changes of mine. It's quite easy to be apathetic to something one day and be annoyed by it the next.

If Coldplay released a single tomorrow i'd be apathetic towards it , do you think i'd feel the same way if by a week later i'd heard it about 20 times a day?

At the moment I am apathetic to this sort of thing , when the next big raising awareness bandwagon comes along and the usual suspects jump onto it then i'll be irritated by it again.

It's quite simple really.
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Old 10-15-2008, 07:21 PM   #1315 (permalink)
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It's quite simple really.
Yeah I know I was just being sarcastic. Whatever I'm too apathetic to elaborate so I'm going to do some stuff that isn't lame.
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Old 10-16-2008, 02:09 AM   #1316 (permalink)
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4 : Preachers

Apparently Thom Yorke wants me to make a more careful & considered choice when it comes to buying chocolate.

Fuck off

Whatever next? Is Chris Martin & Bono going to stand next to my local supermarket checkout going through my trolly to make sure that the coffee I buy gives a fair price to one armed single parent lesbian coffee farmers.... or something.

I'm bored of being concerned about everything. And even if I was moved to do something because of an appeal it certainly wouldn't be because some rock star thinks I should be. Of course i'm going to give a flying fuck about climate change because Bono thinks I should be. Yes I am going to be lectured to about climate change by a man who flies items of clothing first class on jumbo jets. The day my carbon footprint is bigger than yours them you can lecture me , until that day happens shut the fuck up.

And lets be honest , does anyone really give a shit about debt in Africa? I mean what exactly am I supposed to do about it? I didn't lend them the money.
The only reason anybody gave a shit about Live 8 was to see Pink Floyd reform. As far as the cause behind it or the bunch of non entities who played before Pink Floyd , who cares.

Although I can't really include benefit gigs in this. As far as i'm concerned a gig is a gig and once i've paid my money to get in who cares what happens to it. If it goes to a charity then great , more power to you. As long as I get my moneys worth i'm happy.

Basically i'm bored of all these lilly livered liberal rock stars being caring & sharing. If I want to be informed about something i'll pick up a newspaper and read about whats going on. I don't see why I should pay special attention to something you can't keep your gob shut about just because you can strum a couple of chords. If you feel that strongly about something write a song about it. At least that way you'll keep me entertained as you lecture me.

I much prefer my rock stars coked up to the eyeballs talking shite to be honest.
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Old 10-16-2008, 06:02 AM   #1317 (permalink)
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Hell if i was a rockstar i'd preach all i want, when in Rome n' all.
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Old 10-17-2008, 01:05 PM   #1318 (permalink)
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3 : Music Television

I should point out that MTV are just the tip of the iceberg here.

Back in the mid - late 80s and with satellite and cable TV still in it's infancy in the UK which was only really available to either tech geeks , rich people or people with a big enough garden to fit a 10 foot satellite dish, the thought of a television station that played music for 24 hours was just mindblowing. Especially for someone like me who had grown up with only 3/4 terrestrial channels.

A friend of mine at school named Paul who was into the same sort of music as me had a Dad who was a bit of a tech geek and actually owned a satellite dish , and every few months he'd give me a video of stuff he'd recorded from it. It was great , in depth interviews with my favourite bands , music videos by bands I liked who I didn't even know made music videos , the occasional recorded gig , special programs recorded at festivals. I thought it was the dogs bollocks and was really envious that he had access to all that stuff.

A few years later and when Rupert Murdoch & Alan Sugar made satellite TV accessible & affordable to plebs like me I was really excited about getting this stuff for myself. So when I finally wrestled the TV remote from the rest of the family I put on MTV , sat back on the sofa , took it all in and came to a sudden realisation....

This is shit

It should have been a clue that the 3 hour tapes of stuff Paul gave me was recorded over several months. Aside from the occasional show , usually tucked away in the small hours of the morning MTV was absolute crap. Every program seemed to follow the same pattern.....

shitty grunge video
Adverts
shitty 'Alternative' video
Adverts
shitty R&B video
Inane drivel from some presenter
Adverts
More inane drivel from some presenter
Another shitty R&B video
Adverts
shitty dance video
Adverts
shitty hip hop video
Adverts
Even more inane drivel from some presenter.

So I stopped watching.

That was about 16/17 years ago , now things are even worse.
MTV doesn't really count anymore because they're too obsessed making shitty reality shows , and thats about it really. But that's OK because there are fucking hundreds of other shit TV stations to replace it.
It seems now whenever i scroll my remote through the 500 music channels that are there I get this...

5 stations showing the same 10 shitty Hip Hop tunes
5 stations showing the same 10 shitty R&B tunes
5 stations showing the same 10 shitty Nu Metal tunes
5 stations showing the same 10 shitty 80s stadium rock tunes
5 stations showing the same 10 shitty Dance tunes
5 stations showing the same 10 shitty songs that people can call in and vote for.

In fact i have noticed that there seems to be a music station for everybody but one important demographic has been missed out , I don't quite know how this one was overlooked because to me it seems pretty obvious and the lack of it seems to baffle me.....

I know it's a long shot but how about a music station dedicated to PEOPLE WHO LIKE MUSIC.

You know , like a 24 hour station where you can have artist profiles , live gigs , exclusive interviews , documentaries , biographies. Not only populated by big rich & famous stars but by bands who actually made a difference or had something to say. A station for open minded people where you can find any genre you like. A music station where you can actually learn something instead of watching a stream of women shaking their asses in the camera over some monotonous beat for 10 videos in a row.

It'll never ever happen. In the last year I have only watched 3 things to do with music on TV. A Hawkwind documentary , A David Bowie biography and a Thin Lizzy concert from 1978.

None of these were on a specialist music channel.

Says it all really.
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Old 10-17-2008, 01:08 PM   #1319 (permalink)
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Old 10-17-2008, 01:59 PM   #1320 (permalink)
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VH1's Classic in Concert is my new favorite music program (when they play concerts I haven't seen) I also dig the old school countdowns they do from time to time. 100 greatest hip-hop songs was the last one I watched and there were some interesting moments but overall it was kinda dull.

Urban, did you know Bohemian Rhapsody was the first ever music video made to promote a band? this is why nobody can put down Queen
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