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Urban Hat€monger ? 09-21-2008 03:13 AM

I know it's only one criteria , but it's the one you bought up.
I mentioned two albums from that year that I preferred over OK Computer , you were the one that mentioned influence so I mentioned another album that could claim to be just as or if not even more so than Radiohead. I know they're not that Mogwai are not the only Post Rock band but most of the ones I have heard sound a lot closer to them than Tortoise.
But that isn't really the point. The point is I named two albums from that year I liked more than OK Computer and all the influence that album has in the world makes no difference when it's me sitting here listening to them.

cardboard adolescent 09-21-2008 03:46 AM

Being influential doesn't mean crap anymore anyway. Once it might've meant some sort of stylistic breakthrough, but nowadays all artists do is rehash old styles anyway. Being influential nowadays just means the mainstream decided to turn your influences into a new trend.

WaspStar 09-21-2008 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Zombeels (Post 522027)
Actually for argument's sake, you might want to try using albums that most of us have heard of.


Maybe you should check them out; they're not obscure at all. Evergreen has one of the great Echo & The Bunnymen singles on it (Nothing Lasts Forever) and Time Out Of Mind seems to be a Bob Dylan album that even non Dylan fans appreciate. They're both far more "visible" (TOOM won three Grammys, not that that means anything) than most of the albums posted here.


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Originally Posted by Zombeels (Post 522061)
Popular artists but not popular albums. I just finished looking at several lists of top albums of the 90's and neither of these albums made any list. Even on Rate Your Music they couldn't crack the top 300 of 1997. Now I know people may like albums personally better than OK Computer but to say any other album was better through an objective viewpoint is wrong.

Who gives a fuck about lists? If we went by lists, Sgt. Pepper would still be the greatest album ever (and Pet Sounds the second best).

And there is no such thing as objectively rating an album outside of sales, which are meaningless anyway. If we're going by how many people like an album, you should really be listening to the Eagles, Michael Jackson, Elvis Presley, Garth Brooks, etc. if you want to hear "objectively great" music.

dac 09-21-2008 09:53 AM

i personally like Kid A better, but still even if you don't have it in your top slot, give it the respect, people are talking like its complete garbage... no one is ever going to unanimously agree that it or any other album is the best, but the fact that it makes virtually everyone's top 10 or 5 speaks to it's impact and greatness

Urban Hat€monger ? 09-21-2008 10:09 AM

How is saying I like 2 albums from 1997 more than OK Computer talking garbage.

C'mon have a bit of perspective.

Rage Against the Machine 09-21-2008 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 521308)
Cunt from Muse

How is he a cunt? I can see how someone wouldn't like his music, but he seems like a pretty well-rounded guy.

Urban Hat€monger ? 09-21-2008 11:00 AM

Read the entry again

Urban Hat€monger ? 09-21-2008 11:12 AM

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l9.../bobmarley.jpg

24 : Students With Bob Marley Posters Who Smoke Spliffs , Talk In A Cod Jamaican Accent While Smoking Them Yet The Only Reggae Album They Own Is Bob Marley's Greatest Hits.

Fuck off

Just Fuck off

Akira 09-21-2008 11:15 AM

They'll often wear a Che Guevara t-shirt, just to 'mix it up'.

:rofl:

simplephysics 09-21-2008 11:15 AM

See: Every high school student in middle America.

Urban Hat€monger ? 09-21-2008 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreadnaught (Post 522165)
See: Every high school student in middle America.

Sadly it's not just limited to that

dac 09-21-2008 11:34 AM

HAHAHA my favorite entry yet!

Urban Hat€monger ? 09-21-2008 11:41 AM

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l9...nH/rubbish.jpg

23 : People Who Buy Novelty / Charity / Talent Contest Records

The only time I have ever enjoyed a charity record is when Elton John released that version of Candle In The Wind when Diana croaked.
I didn't like the song , as if I would enjoy a load of sentimental garbage like that. The entertainment factor in all of this was watching middle aged women in tears kicking the shit out of each other in shops to buy about 50 copies each.
I've never understood the appeal of charity records , I don't need some turgid Irish boyband telling me to give money because they've decided to inflict some shitty Billy Joel cover on the world.
Novelty records are even worse. Shit records that are meant to be shit for the sake of being shit and making a profit. But there's a part of me that doesn't blame them for doing so. If people are dumb enough to want to buy a copy of Maureen from diving school singing (And I use the term loosely) I Like Driving In My Car or some slag from Big Brother making some cheesy euro disco record then fuck it ... take their money. They deserve to be skint for wasting it on shit like this. A woman I work with told me she bought the Crazy Frog record. When I asked her what possessed her to do so she simply replied 'Oh I like the original'.
As for talent show contest winners I see a lot of hate aimed at these people yet I don't understand why. These sorts of artists have been around for years. Talent shows have been a staple of TV since it started and most of these acts disappear after one or two singles anyway. I'd love to hate these people but they fuck off before I even know who they are. So no hatred for these people , just the cunts who think they need to own yet another Simon Cowell puppet doing Unchained Melody.

jackhammer 09-21-2008 12:08 PM

Amen to the cod reggae. Sometimes they mention UB40 too. Dunces.

Urban Hat€monger ? 09-21-2008 12:23 PM


Right , I think i've held this one back as long as I can.

I have a theory about Pearl Jam.
You know how it was discovered that Milli Vanilli didn't play on any of their own records and that it was a bunch of studio musicians. Well I think that Pearl Jam do this to. I think somewhere sitting in a recording studio in Seattle is a bunch of musicians in their 50s & 60s churning out this stuff while the Pearl Jam you see playing this stuff are just a front. It's the only solution I can think of as to how a band can sound so middle aged and boring right from their first album. I think sometime around 1991 these men were looking for an outlet for their music , cottoned on to the grunge thing and though 'Hey , lets just pull 5 bums off the street to play this stuff . Dress them up in scruffy clothes to appeal to the kids and they'll never notice the difference'.

To me Pearl Jam albums are just a vaccuum that just sucks up any enjoyment you can get listening to music. Just 5 boring people , looking bored making boring music for other boring people. I don't see any excitement anywhere. I mean Joy Division wrote dreary music about dreary subject matter but they did it with an intensity that grabs you by the throat Radiohead did it too but they did it in an innovative way. I just get the impression Pearl Jam are such a right-on band that they wouldn't take a risk if their life depended on it for fear of upsetting somebody.

Ahhh , their right-on credentials. I thought REM & Micheal Stipe were bad for this sort of thing but Pearl Jam take the fucking biscuit. You get the impression if Eddie Vedder trod on an ant by accident he'd write a fucking song about it then afterwards launch a series of concerts entitled 'Ant Aid' trying to stop segregation and race wars between red ants & black ants.

I remember having a conversation with a friend a few years ago where I was saying to him how dissapointed I was with what the Super Furry Animals were doing these days and how I thought it was a bit dull compared to their first couple of albums. He replied to me 'How the hell do you think I feel , I'm a bloody Pearl Jam fan'. This is a man who spent half of the 90s trying to get me to listen to Ten , Vs & Vitology on a regular basis. If he feels this way is there any hope for anybody?

I can see no redeeming qualities in this band whatsoever and I blame them for being one of the reasons Grunge turned out to be so bloody awful after a promising start. You can see the decline the moment they shit out the Ten album and sold however million copies. From that moment all grunge was going to be was record companies signing shit grunge acts trying to recreate that success. I have no idea how this band remains so huge , but then again you have to take into consideration that of the 13 million copies Ten sold about 11.5 or something was in the U.S. alone , and when you look at all the other shit that sells huge amounts in the U.S. alone and shit all around the rest of the world you then have your answer.

jackhammer 09-21-2008 12:32 PM

I am rather proud of the fact that I own exactly zero Pearl Jam songs.

Akira 09-21-2008 12:39 PM

Anyone who owns over 1000 albums and none of them are Pearl Jam can walk the streets with head held high. :D

Brad Stengel 09-21-2008 12:45 PM

How many posts do you give before the token grunge panderers show up?

Urban Hat€monger ? 09-21-2008 12:46 PM

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l99/urbanH/broken.jpg

21 : Local Radio's Obsession With Mister Mister

Someone explain to me how can a band who had two hits in the 80s can get more airplay over the past 15 years on local radio than The Stone Roses , The Smiths , Echo & The Bunnymen , The Cure , Blur , Oasis , Pulp , Suede , Supergrass , Primal Scream , Radiohead , The Strokes , The Libertines , Bloc Party & The Arctic Monkeys combined.

I hear those two songs so much every week you'd think they were new releases.

The only thing I can think of is that they're still together touring... Touring local radio stations sucking off DJs.

Double X 09-21-2008 12:47 PM

I like that song in guitar hero by Pearl Jam...:)

jackhammer 09-21-2008 12:49 PM

that's just the tip of the iceberg though TBH.

Ce Ce Peniston-Finally
Toploader-Dancing In The Moonlight
Robbie Williams-Millenium

just a few more tracks played to god damn oblivion.

Piss Me Off 09-21-2008 12:51 PM

Mister Mister....

Who?

Urban Hat€monger ? 09-21-2008 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Piss Me Off (Post 522193)
Mister Mister....

Who?




jackhammer 09-21-2008 01:08 PM

Remember It Bites too with 'Calling All The Heroes'? Another example of tripe.

Piss Me Off 09-21-2008 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 522201)



Ahhh right, those sort of songs that you know yet can't put a name to :D

jackhammer 09-21-2008 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Piss Me Off (Post 522215)
Ahhh right, those sort of songs that you know yet can't put a name to :D

You can : Shit. :D

WaspStar 09-21-2008 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 522163)
Students With Bob Marley Posters Who Smoke Spliffs , Talk In A Cod Jamaican Accent While Smoking Them Yet The Only Reggae Album They Own Is Bob Marley's Greatest Hits.

Fuck off

Just Fuck off

I think we can extend this even further.

"People with Nirvana shirts who spike their hair and say they're 'punk' and the only grunge/punk/rock album they own is Nevermind."

"People who talk about how much they love music while their only exposure to music is three hours of MTV a day"

...etc. Still, good call.


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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 522182)
I have a theory about Pearl Jam.
I think somewhere sitting in a recording studio in Seattle is a bunch of musicians in their 50s & 60s churning out this stuff while the Pearl Jam you see playing this stuff are just a front. It's the only solution I can think of as to how a band can sound so middle aged and boring right from their first album.

You're giving them way too much credit.

Meph1986 09-21-2008 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 522182)
22 : Pearl Jam

http://i38.tinypic.com/10ynkhh.jpg

sweet_nothing 09-21-2008 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 522183)
I am rather proud of the fact that I own exactly zero Pearl Jam songs.

same here
Quote:

Originally Posted by Double X (Post 522189)
I like that song in guitar hero by Pearl Jam...:)

Even Flow, yeh that's the only song I got 100% on. =\

Zombeels 09-21-2008 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToeAndno (Post 522185)
Anyone who owns over 1000 albums and none of them are Pearl Jam can walk the streets with head held high. :D

I own over 2500 records and not one Pearl Jam. My head is in the clouds.

Akira 09-21-2008 05:38 PM

My head is higher :p:

lucifer_sam 09-21-2008 06:21 PM

I accidentally downloaded Pearl Jam's discography a few years back. Needless to say, I have yet to listen to a full album. I skip their **** whenever I'm on shuffle too.

Urban Hat€monger ? 09-21-2008 06:53 PM

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l9...ing-tings2.jpg

20 : The Ting Tings


Ways Of Discovering If Your Band Suck Or Not

1. You sound like a third rate version of ...

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l9...nH/shampoo.jpg


Oops , Fell at the first hurdle.

FaSho 09-21-2008 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 522405)

Hey Jack White Why Dont You Let Meg Sing And Try A Third Rate Electronica Sound?

swim 09-21-2008 07:15 PM

Why are all two pieces compared to The White Stripes?

15Steps 09-21-2008 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swim (Post 522424)
Why are all two pieces compared to The White Stripes?

They are basically the defining duo of the modern rock sound.

cardboard adolescent 09-21-2008 07:30 PM

lol

15Steps 09-21-2008 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cardboard adolescent (Post 522429)
lol

something funny?
name another 2 piece band who are more popular atm.

Akira 09-21-2008 07:33 PM

Does popular=defining these days?

15Steps 09-21-2008 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToeAndno (Post 522431)
Does popular=defining these days?

not at all.
are you saying being popular makes a band bad?


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