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Old 08-16-2008, 05:37 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Old 08-16-2008, 05:43 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Actually, I think most of what booboo listed are fairly reasonable. The ones that get me are the ones that are even sub-sub-sub-genres like raw blackened forest metal. That **** is the same **** as raw black metal no matter how you slice it.
No, they aren't necessary. People use those sub-sub-genres just to differentiate one band from another, and not to collectively classify them within a genre. That's not how a genre is supposed to work. You don't divide, divide and divide until you can declare one sound to be a certain type of metal, and when someone breaches that genre, it becomes a new genre. Sub-genres are supposed to group bands that have similar sounds together, not distinguish them from similar bands. And guess what? IT'S ALL FUCKING METAL.

It happens in other genres, but not as frequently or as perversely as metal.
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i agree with lucifer
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Old 08-16-2008, 05:57 PM   #14 (permalink)
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lol everything is metal to me, couldnt tell the difference between them tbh
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Old 08-16-2008, 06:02 PM   #15 (permalink)
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There are certainly some kids who take this so far as to give just about EVERY band their own genre.

"Pink floyd are not progressive rock, they are psychedelic electronic rock, which they invented"

Believe me someone actually f*cking said that.
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No, they aren't necessary. People use those sub-sub-genres just to differentiate one band from another, and not to collectively classify them within a genre. That's not how a genre is supposed to work. You don't divide, divide and divide until you can declare one sound to be a certain type of metal, and when someone breaches that genre, it becomes a new genre. Sub-genres are supposed to group bands that have similar sounds together, not distinguish them from similar bands. And guess what? IT'S ALL FUCKING METAL.

It happens in other genres, but not as frequently or as perversely as metal.
If you're quite a fan of a genre, then you wouldn't think its subgenres are ridiculous because you're experienced enough to notice a lot of distinction between groups of bands.

E.g. stoner doom is worlds apart from funeral doom.

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But metal dosen't need so many sub-genres.

Prog for example has very few sub-genres, and a lot of them are awfully broad. Punk has some ridiculous sub-genres too, but not to the extent of metal.

Metal fans are downright obsessed with specific classifications.
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There are certainly some kids who take this so far as to give just about EVERY band their own genre.

"Pink floyd are not progressive rock, they are psychedelic electronic rock, which they invented"

Believe me someone actually f*cking said that.
I could understand using the term "progressive psychedelic rock" to some extent. Progressive as a descriptor has more to do with how the structures push boundaries. Psychedelic is a description of tones and how the sounds play off each other, and rock has more to do with the style of riffs and leads. Electro though?
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see to me electro can fit into anything genre really, its all about synthesizers and reverbs, delays and speech synthesis. then there is electro rock/pop/house etc
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I want to punch someone in the face when I go by the punk section at HMV and see a My Chemical Romance CD.
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