I know right, Bright Eyes sound changes quite a bit and not for the better sadly.

Pretty much, although it's fair to say I enjoyed his s/t quite a bit. He's got a new EP and I've heard good things about that too.

Oh my god, he got worse?!

Which album(s) have you heard?

I think Bright Eyes is a pretty bad example for that. Digital Ash in a Digital Urn is completely different from Fevers and Mirrors which is different from Noise Floor and so on. Bad example.

Exactly how I feel. Fevers and Mirrors is it's own animal especially. The sound of his stuff in the last four years is dramatically different to the point where if you did not know the music you'd think it was two different artists.

I've heard I'm Wide Awake, It's Morning and a bunch of random other tracks from other albums. What I heard all sounded the same to me.

If it appeals to you at all, try Fevers and Mirrors, I'll send you a mediafire if need be.

How do you feel about off topic questions about off topic posts and people who responded to them?

Yeah, it's not like there's any new entries to discuss.

I appreciate the offer but I have really disliked everything I've heard by him so far. Is there something about Fevers and Mirrors that you think would appeal to someone with very negative opinion of I'm Wide Awake It's Morning?

I disliked Bright Eyes for about a year after my son first introduced me to it, but that album aside from a few tracks I can't relate to seems like such a powerful and personal effort that I find it endlessly appealing and fascinating. Plus there are some very good very simple acoustic songs that are fun to reimagine\rearrange and play yourself.

I think Lifted is my favorite Bright Eyes album. It has the same feel as I'm Wide Awake, just written and produced 10x better.

It's the acoustic stuff that I don't like. Everything I had heard by him until today sounded like that and there's something about it that really bugs me. As a result of this thread, I listened to some samples from a couple of the albums mentioned and I can see why you and a few others have said that his sound has changed from album to album. Maybe I'd like some of that other stuff, but I'm really not a fan of his sparse acoustic songs.

Doesn't sound like it's in your wheelhouse, your time would be better served looking for music elsewhere.

Yes musical safety. There are so so many new threads that appear on MB that promote a band who are great at what they do or are musically unique that just seem to rot away. There is a small number of us on here who regularly trade through PM's because we love the thrill of hearing new music. Sometimes the recommendations don't work but what the hell. Music should be about taking yourself out of your comfort zone and trying to immerse yourself in as many different sounds and genres as possible. I am not asking you to like them. Just try them and maybe you will find a whole unexplored avenue of music that reaffirms that passion for music.

I am not for once suggesting that we all get on our knees and fellate every new thread on here but damn is'nt it about time some of you started chucking some names at the more mature of us who are not in the loop?

Is it a lack of confidence at getting shot down if your recommendation does'nt currie favour with all? Fuck that. Post away.

Never ever be satisfied with what's sitting in your music collection. There is literally millions of albums out there waiting to be discovered. Go find them FFS.

Then try Digital Ash in a Digital Urn, if you're up to it.

I think a major issue here is intimidation. New posters have often voiced that the feel the regulars can be a bit abrasive and there is no doubt the average MB member is much more "in tune" with the music scene then the average person.

I think this is something that could develop with time and does in individual cases. My musical knowledge has not grown so much so fast since my youth when all I did was chase down music and books and magazines about music.

As I type this I am listening to a abnd I'd never have found without Music Banter, you are so fucking right when you say how great expanding your musical horizons can be, but here I'd say it's more up to those who have felt the benefits of this open mindedness to share their experiences with others and promote it as you do then it is up to those without self experienced motivation to be expected to change their habits and preconceptions.

One of my major gripes with Religion is that a lot of religious people need other people to believe what they believe.

Music is the opposite for me. I don't care who likes what I like; it doesn't effect my experience. I wish everyone felt exactly as I did about everything and I can't understand why they don't, but I understand they do and I don't let it fuck up my day cause I can't control it.

Thanks for a new topic Lee.

Heh. That sounds like a challenge. I'll try and give it a listen at some point.

With that I'm off to post a thread about a new band that probably only three people will reply to. :D

...and yet ironically you'd get more replies posting in this thread.

Stay on topic! :p:

I am, continuing the theme of why MB sucks and developing my point.

lol

I seem to be the opposite of a lot of people here because personally I don't think posting threads about new bands to be the be all & end all of everything.

I mean I probably listen to about 5 or 6 new bands a week of all sorts of genres but I don't start threads on them because I need time to work out what I think , and in a lot of cases most of these bands only have a couple of good songs on an album.

I'd much rather wait until something really special comes along and post about that , then start a bunch of threads on loads of bands I just find average or go off after just a few listens.

I agree completley with #4, I love discovering new music, and people like JH, Alfred, and Janszoon are the ones who have helped me with it.

And about the new bands threads well...no ones commented on my Semi-Precious Weapons thread yet :D

I appreciate those sentiments a lot and understand where you are coming from. However 9 times out of ten I know if a band works for me or not. Herein lies the problem. What works for me is wholly indifferent to the mass public. Forcing my musical ideas is not always the best idea.

Yeah, I'm really bad with this one. As a result, I have a tiny music collection on my PC.

It's not so much that I won't listen to new bands, it's more like I go for them if the description of their music sounds appealing.

My pet peeve in a nutshell. The somewhat bullying culture of this site. Deny it all you like, but people get unfairly rinsed here

I think that's message boards in general, not just this one.

i dont frequent any other message boards. And i dont see why its necessary, its completely hypocritical in a way

I agree it's annoying. I'm just saying it seems to be an internet-wide problem rather than something specific to this place. I'm not really sure what can be done about it.

To be fair if there is any bullying it's usually done to people who'll say something like 'shut the **** up you don't know what you're talking about you ****ing idiot' rather than 'I see your point I just don't agree with it'.

I listen to plenty of bands that would be considered crap or uncool by the majority of people on the forum. I was never given **** for it not even as a noob.
Why was that?
Maybe because I gave as good as I got and never resorted to name calling.

30 people criticising my taste in music?

Bring it on fuckers :D

Lol. Musicbanter is tame compared to what I've seen.

1. threads like these.

Did you miss three or am I just TOTALLY missing it?

I'm guilty of this, but there's already so much I haven't heard already stored on my harddrive, it's tough.

So what number are we on now? 3? Get crackin...

This could seem as a very odd choice to many but bear with me. One of MB'S strengths is also it's weaknesses. Because MB is'nt genre specific, I have noticed many people join to talk about Metal or Reggae but leave fairly quickly because they don't get many replies as the most of the fans who really know their stuff are on other forums that deal exclusively with those genres.

Metalheads rarely hang around these forums for too long as the same old threads/arguments pop up and they would rather be on a forum where there are more like minded people etc. Same for Reggae/Electronica etc. Not always but this forum is catered for those with wide ranging and eclectic tastes and unfortunately there are less of us than there are genre specific fans.

I really don't know what we can do to change this but I am regularly disappointed when new members join and then leave within a few weeks due to lack of response. I could take the mindset that it is no great shakes and that they should'nt be so narrow minded but some people just love one genre only and I would love to benefit from someone who can recommend me some good music for once.

I kind of feel guilty for flaunting my tastes all over the forum but I like to gee up things and lament the lack of new members sometimes.

When I came to MB all I listened to was Sum 41-esque bands and look at me now.
If it wasn't for all the eclectic member's I probably wouldn't have stayed.