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Old 01-19-2009, 12:53 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I really like that post.
Brilliantly put, WolfAtTheDoor.

I often feel the exact same way.
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Old 01-19-2009, 02:56 AM   #12 (permalink)
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no i realise that there is brilliant music still coming out, and that there is lots more of it, but i'm just saying that there is so much **** hitting the wall that nothing is actually sticking
why does it need to stick?
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Old 01-22-2009, 06:20 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I'm just saying music seems to make much less of an impact on culture these days.
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Old 01-22-2009, 08:50 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I'm just saying music seems to make much less of an impact on culture these days.
So? Even if thats true who gives a ****? Just enjoy what you enjoy and be happy.
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Old 01-22-2009, 05:16 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I'm just saying music seems to make much less of an impact on culture these days.
id say it has a very large effect, but due to the diversity out there today it is less uniform.
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Old 01-22-2009, 05:35 PM   #16 (permalink)
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id say it has a very large effect, but due to the diversity out there today it is less uniform.
i totally agree. the impact is there it's just spread out a lot farther and thinner. i get the feeling mainstream music is in limbo right now. the technology and mediums available for distribution make it so that it's pretty much impossible for any band to really have the impact of a group like nirvana (as the most recent, and for the foreseeable future final, example)

it's not that i think rock music has peaked or that my generation's poop was golden, but everything about how people handled music changed in the late 90s. i really don't see how a group would be able to have the same impact now as when tv and radio were not just the primary methods of exposure but the ONLY methods of exposure.
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Old 01-22-2009, 07:57 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Sounds like your listening to the wrong **** if you don't get that feeling anymore...
I mean you can totally find some small shows to feel musically united with fellow fans if thats what your into... i think maybe you just need to look harder dude. And i think you will find that there are quite a few bands "sticking"
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Old 01-23-2009, 11:04 AM   #18 (permalink)
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So? Even if thats true who gives a ****? Just enjoy what you enjoy and be happy.
I'm sorry mr internet man...


and I agree with the above comments, that the diversity within music these days makes its impact upon modern society widely spread. However, I'd also say that this makes it a lot less exciting.

And for the record, I'm not saying that it makes the music itself less exciting, but the impact it has. As it is being spread on a wider scale, it is also thinning it out.
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Old 01-23-2009, 12:54 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Music isn't about becoming the next big thing, and everyone worshipping todays biggest band.
It shouldn't be, but **** that one hears on the radio nowadays, even **** you don't hear on the radio, **** that's "underground" on "myspace", that's what it seems to be about, that's what the majority of airheads with earbuds in their ears are making it about. You know how many people own iPod shuffles with 1GB of music on them? They are selling these things smaller (in size - because I don't mean to say that the new ones are less GBs, PaperHurricanes bought me a 120 GB for Xmas<3, one of the new, bigger sized ones) in store, as a marketing technique... people are into "the smaller the better" nowadays. We've got the small-as-**** iPods, mp3s, ****in' cell phone's that plug into your ears (essentially), laptops will now be called knee-tops, goddamn Virginia Super-Super-Super Slim Thin Thins in a box that looks like an elongated square... but I digress. My apologies. Back to the music. They sell these things in store, shuffles, 1GB, as a marketing technique because it's cool, and it's tiny, and it looks cute. You're a teenage girl, you walk into the store, you've got 50 bucks on you, you want a new accessory that looks good when you've got the longest, thinnest cigarette known to man in your hand. Manufacturors (sp?) of mass musical devices, like iPods and mp3 players and the likes, do not care about the music any more. Does anybody in the business, really? Does any big label, really? It's the timeless question. If anyone's making money, why would they?

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It should be. It was. Rarely still is. Wish it was. I agree with Wolf that the bonding over music isn't there anymore. There's just so much there and so much new **** out and so much new **** to try, it's hard for anyone to have anything in common to bond over anymore. And that depresses me. The impact is there - it's just that the impact it's having is that with all the convenience of the new generation(s), we're breeding apathy. We're making a giant Franken**** and then complaining about it. But that being said, what can we really do? Nothing.

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Music works the same way, it's a way to express your self and challenge your artistic abilities.
It should be. But is it? Could we try and prove it? No, no we couldn't. It's all subjective. And what we also create in this generation, for the smarter portion of us, is great cynicism (which is not bad if used properly), so so much for that. No doubt some modern bands/groups/artists are like that, what with expressing themselves and challenging their abilities... hopefully most are, or I weep more for the future than I ever have before.

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As for the music consumer, everyone liking the same band would be boring, as it would probably turn into one big fanboyism mush.
Instead, they find the occasional band thats makes their brow twitch. Thats not to say they should go on every forum on the web yelling how much they suck. Instead, they should consider that band a challenge, and find things they like about it, and discuss with friends. Find opinions, things you never noticed, lyrics you didn't get before, and talent you overlooked.
I agree to the 10th degree, everyone liking the same thing would be boring. Though I don't think that was the original intention of the initial post... it's that no one's bonding anymore over anything, because there's just so much ****, and because there is, there's no impact, no time to let things settle and sink in. Everything's hyperactive. But for the most part, I agree with that paragraph there.


And by the way, I'm not picking on you , I just saw your post as a great coversation stimulator for this particular thread. Kudos.
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It shouldn't be, but **** that one hears on the radio nowadays, even **** you don't hear on the radio, **** that's "underground" on "myspace", that's what it seems to be about, that's what the majority of airheads with earbuds in their ears are making it about. You know how many people own iPod shuffles with 1GB of music on them? They are selling these things smaller (in size - because I don't mean to say that the new ones are less GBs, PaperHurricanes bought me a 120 GB for Xmas<3, one of the new, bigger sized ones) in store, as a marketing technique... people are into "the smaller the better" nowadays. We've got the small-as-**** iPods, mp3s, ****in' cell phone's that plug into your ears (essentially), laptops will now be called knee-tops, goddamn Virginia Super-Super-Super Slim Thin Thins in a box that looks like an elongated square... but I digress. My apologies. Back to the music. They sell these things in store, shuffles, 1GB, as a marketing technique because it's cool, and it's tiny, and it looks cute. You're a teenage girl, you walk into the store, you've got 50 bucks on you, you want a new accessory that looks good when you've got the longest, thinnest cigarette known to man in your hand. Manufacturors (sp?) of mass musical devices, like iPods and mp3 players and the likes, do not care about the music any more. Does anybody in the business, really? Does any big label, really? It's the timeless question. If anyone's making money, why would they?


It should be. It was. Rarely still is. Wish it was. I agree with Wolf that the bonding over music isn't there anymore. There's just so much there and so much new **** out and so much new **** to try, it's hard for anyone to have anything in common to bond over anymore. And that depresses me. The impact is there - it's just that the impact it's having is that with all the convenience of the new generation(s), we're breeding apathy. We're making a giant Franken**** and then complaining about it. But that being said, what can we really do? Nothing.


It should be. But is it? Could we try and prove it? No, no we couldn't. It's all subjective. And what we also create in this generation, for the smarter portion of us, is great cynicism (which is not bad if used properly), so so much for that. No doubt some modern bands/groups/artists are like that, what with expressing themselves and challenging their abilities... hopefully most are, or I weep more for the future than I ever have before.



I agree to the 10th degree, everyone liking the same thing would be boring. Though I don't think that was the original intention of the initial post... it's that no one's bonding anymore over anything, because there's just so much ****, and because there is, there's no impact, no time to let things settle and sink in. Everything's hyperactive. But for the most part, I agree with that paragraph there.


And by the way, I'm not picking on you , I just saw your post as a great coversation stimulator for this particular thread. Kudos.
I dunno how someone could say so much and yet so little at the same time. Of course theres 'bonding' over music, the idea that there isn't is bull****, i love the fact that you've put that guys nonsense in your sig.
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