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Old 01-19-2009, 08:53 PM   #11 (permalink)
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^Yes thank you! I'm sick of popularity being such a factor in **** like this!
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Old 01-19-2009, 08:54 PM   #12 (permalink)
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People often say that a band s!@#$ when it goes mainstream. The premise behind that attitude would seem to be something along the lines of: 'musicians should concentrate on their artistic integrity, and not care what the audience thinks.'

Or maybe they should only care what the audience thinks if the audience is small?
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Old 01-19-2009, 09:07 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I dont mean to be pedantic but a musician can become a popular musician with the strength of their material. Case in point Led Zeppelin
And they were definitely entertainers. I'm not saying anything bad about entertainers, some of 'em are my favorites (Steve Harley, David Bowie, etc). But when a musician achieves a level of popularity that makes them a household name, it sure as shit isn't because they start making better music.
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Old 01-19-2009, 09:12 PM   #14 (permalink)
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What about Radiohead (apologies, best example)? They're popular as fuck these days and i definately would not class them as entertainers. In fact i can think of quite a few acts that are popular but do not entertain
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Old 01-19-2009, 09:18 PM   #15 (permalink)
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All artists are entertainers, but not all entertainers are artists, perhaps? I dunno.
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Old 01-19-2009, 09:20 PM   #16 (permalink)
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That was by far the smartest thing anyone on this thread has said. Props!
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Old 01-19-2009, 10:35 PM   #17 (permalink)
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All artists are entertainers, but not all entertainers are artists, perhaps? I dunno.
Not necessarily. Munch didnt create The Scream to entertain people, often art is a form of self expression; of communicating feeling and emotion - same applies to music. I dont think Nick Drake wrote Fives Leaves Left with the intention of entertaining the listener.
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Old 01-20-2009, 01:44 AM   #18 (permalink)
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The premise of the question is flawed. Artistry is not defined by popularity or keeping the audience in mind whilst creating your music. If you are involved in creating original music then I would call you an artist. If other people listen to and enjoy your music then I would call you an entertainer. Almost all musicians are both.

But if I answered the question properly then I would probably say entertainers, my tastes are generally pretty accessible and popular.
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Old 01-20-2009, 03:42 AM   #19 (permalink)
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I think it's fairly obvious the difference between the two. Some bands manage to achieve both and obviously will then become entertaining for those who watch them. The artists who are only entertainers are the artists that most of us probably don't listen to anyhow, so the question is a little redundant.
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Old 01-20-2009, 04:07 AM   #20 (permalink)
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I tend to be entertained by what I like. Not sure I care to worry about it that deeply.

Just out of curiosity why did the OP put this in this Rock & Metal forum and not the General Board?
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