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Old 02-16-2009, 11:24 AM   #51 (permalink)
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Go get yourself a Buff Medways album (Doesn't matter which they all sound the same) and educate yourself man.
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Old 02-16-2009, 03:35 PM   #52 (permalink)
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agreed, that's Basquiat in your avvy isn't it?

Yeah. Do you like his work?
Most of my friends don't
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Old 02-16-2009, 03:36 PM   #53 (permalink)
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Old 02-16-2009, 11:44 PM   #55 (permalink)
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Yeah. Do you like his work?
Most of my friends don't
yep, love it, generally anything with 'expressionist' on the end and palettes like that I am a sucker for, his work reminds me of Don Van Vliet's stuff for some reason, jsut less primitive

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Old 02-18-2009, 01:35 AM   #56 (permalink)
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I was just thinking about Billy Childish....
His music isn't really controversial
but his Stuckism was pretty damn controversial in the art world, controversial and ****.
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I was just thinking about Billy Childish....
His music isn't really controversial
but his Stuckism was pretty damn controversial in the art world, controversial and ****.
f*ck yeah i had to remind myself what their manifesto was but f*ck yes. Whta i have found of their stuff i really like aswell, it's all part of Billy's Victorian chic isn't it really, and according to wiki they were founded as an alternative to Saatchi who I inherently distrust (even though I havent been to his gallery)
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Old 02-18-2009, 03:46 AM   #58 (permalink)
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Im not really a fan of stuckism,
I don;t like their whole anti-postmodernist stance and the real artists paint deal. I'm into more abstract styles generally.
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Old 02-18-2009, 03:53 AM   #59 (permalink)
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Im not really a fan of stuckism,
I don;t like their whole anti-postmodernist stance and the real artists paint deal. I'm into more abstract styles generally.
i am also but this is the first figurative painting i have enjoyed, i am not a classics person. it's gootd though i think they are taking a style that was tainted with religion and glorification of war for hundreds of years and made it their own.
Unless you count that others 80's movement in the US that i can't remember... neo-realism or something, i suppose one virtue is that it's accessible
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Old 09-11-2009, 07:44 AM   #60 (permalink)
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sorry for bumping an old thread, but i just discovered this.... awesome conversation.

it reminded me of the most controversial thing that the Pistols did after releasing Bollocks and GSTQ. Their manager, Malcolm McLaren booked them for a U.S. tour of the deep south, just b/c he knew it would be a disaster and would create news wherever they went. It actually ended up being a really sad flameout, but it did spawn some great stories.



Also the Jubilee Boat Trip is pretty legendary.



for punk related controversial stories,Please Kill Me is a great book.
some great stuff about Patti Smith, The Dead Boys, NYDolls & Thunders, etc... some harrowing stuff to be sure. Ultimately mostly just sad though.

For American Punk I would also throw Minor Threat and Fugazi in there for being controversial INSIDE the world of Punk which was a neat trick when it happened.
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