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Old 10-29-2009, 05:08 PM   #61 (permalink)
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are you supposed to listen through ear phones? or whatever way you want?
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Old 10-29-2009, 05:22 PM   #62 (permalink)
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The only two that are $200 are Gates Of Hades and Hand Of God. I just recently read some stories about Gates Of Hades and people sya it's the worst thing they have ever experienced. Still, I'm curious and will let you all know what happens when I get around to trying it.

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When listening, its recommended you lay down somewhere comfortable with headphones. Not those little buds, the real big headphones. Concentrate on the sound

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I read (a while ago, so I don't remember entirely) that the way that this gets you high is that it just temporarily highers the chemicals in your brain that get you high through the sound. I don't know the technical terms for all this so I may sound like an idiot.
The benefits to this is that there aren't any long-term effects and you can't get addicted. There's tons of different doses.

Stuff like orgasm, lucid dream, heroin,

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just look on the website to see there whole library and google the ones you want for free.

I-Doser.com, Binaural Brainwave Doses

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Old 10-29-2009, 05:29 PM   #63 (permalink)
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I tried the extacy one. It really feels like you're rolling for a while. Crazy Stuff.
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Old 10-29-2009, 05:35 PM   #64 (permalink)
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I read (a while ago, so I don't remember entirely) that the way that this gets you high is that it just temporarily highers the chemicals in your brain that get you high through the sound. I don't know the technical terms for all this so I may sound like an idiot.
The benefits to this is that there aren't any long-term effects and you can't get addicted. There's tons of different doses.
Actually the way it works is by Brainwave entrainment. Regular 'drugs' alter the chemicals in your brain.

Basically the brain naturally operates at and emits certain frequencies or, as they can be classified "brainwaves". What these programs do is play signals at those frequencies, absent of other external stimuli the brain will often follow suit and begin operating at the same frequencies as the tone.

Here's a little chart I pulled from Wikipedia:

40 Hz : Gamma waves
Higher mental activity, including perception, problem solving, fear, and consciousness

13–40 Hz : Beta waves
Active, busy or anxious thinking and active concentration, arousal, cognition

7–13 Hz : Alpha waves
Relaxation (while awake), pre-sleep and pre-wake drowsiness

4–7 Hz : Theta waves
Dreams, deep meditation, REM sleep

<4 Hz : Delta waves
Deep dreamless sleep, loss of body awareness

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binaural_beats

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainwave_synchronization

It's very interesting research but it's nothing new... these particular sound files were made specifically to mimic a certain narcotic, and aggressively marketed as such. Some of them will likely work better than others, but I believe with proper mental preperation, a bit of patience and training you'll be getting "high" in no time.
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Old 10-30-2009, 01:47 PM   #65 (permalink)
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Wow. I'm going to have a lot of explaining to do when I get home.
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Old 10-30-2009, 02:03 PM   #66 (permalink)
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Yesterday I asked my Sound teacher, he was working on a project to compare to influence of narcotics on music listening and composing ... and other things of that kind ...Anyway, he did explain the whole thing to me but I was too drunk to remember the specifics.

It was something about, when you put your headphones, your brain will catch the slightly variation between the two channels (Eg. if it's 1000Hz and 1030Hz) and he'll be generating that frequency (30 Hz in that case). So they'll be a 3 waves system and stuff, thus simulating the effect.

He did also told that it's better not to do it, cause I'll be giving my brain wrong messages and my brain will take a bad habit of some kind.

I'm sorry my explanation is so vague ... that's all I can recall, I even thought that conversation was part of a dream (blame the beer!).
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I prefer real drugs to fake ones, but that's just me.
Saying "I prefer real heroin to I-Doser" is like saying "I prefer real killing to video games".
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Saying "I prefer real heroin to I-Doser" is like saying "I prefer real killing to video games".
yea because she was definitely talking about heroin.
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Old 10-30-2009, 04:21 PM   #69 (permalink)
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Ok. So here's the deal. When you take a drug, it's not the alteration of your brainwaves that get you "high". It's either that a chemical is released, or some receptors are blocked, or a chemical is stopped... something along those lines. For example, when you smoke marijuana, you get high because THC, a cannabinoid, binds to receptors in your brain called cannabinoids and activates them. The receptors that it affects control your memory, coordination, concentration, and concept of time and space. So when you smoke, it alters these things. So it has nothing to do with your brainwaves; it has everything to do with the receptors that control these abilities being blocked and messed with. You could potentially alter brainwaves (from what I read, I have no idea if it's true or not) to make a condition somewhat similar to being stoned, but it would not be the same thing.

Now saying you can make a state similar to heroin with music is completely absurd. When you inject heroin, it is broken down into two chemicals, 6-MAM and morphine. The morphine binds with opioid receptors, which gives you a euphoric feeling and keeping you from feeling pain. If you don't have something blocking the opioid receptors, you don't have pain relief, unless the sound is causing your brain to function differently, but that would cause a huge set of problems. So I think we can safely rule out that it can provide any major pain relief, and if any of that is true it might be able to slightly reproduce extremely relaxed, anti-anxious, euphoric state of the drug, but certainly nothing like the original effect. However, if it does somehow provide the same level of euphoria and pain relief, then I'm sorry to say it's going to be just as addictive as heroin, but without a chemical dependency (mental addiction is still a very powerful thing).

And lastly, ecstasy. This goes against your point Btown, because if what you said is indeed what you heard, one of those two points has to be wrong. When you take ecstasy, it increases the amount of serotonin (the happy chemical) that your brain produces. Hence the name ecstasy, and the feeling of rolling. Now, there is no way you could achieve this level of ecstasy (I know...) without causing your brain to produce serotonin. The problem with excessive use of ecstasy, of course, is that at some point your brain stops producing serotonin on its own. Without the drug in your body, you won't have any of the chemical that makes you feel happy. I've seen someone go through this, and believe me, it did not look fun. So, if it is indeed changing the way your brain produces chemicals, then while it may not kill you, it is quite addictive and dangerous.

Just thought I'd put my thoughts on the topic up here. Be aware if you do anything with this, it could potentially have some unwanted side effects. And if you really want to feel relaxed from music, put on some relaxing music; euphoric, put on your favorite upbeat album; high, listen to some Quasimoto or something. At least don't waste your money on this crap.
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Old 10-30-2009, 11:17 PM   #70 (permalink)
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Way to go milkface, you completely missed the point and messed up the meaning of this stuff.

Of course it won't be exactly like the drug in question, but as I said earlier I probably won't ever get to fly a jet airplane so I'll fly in a simulator. Don't call this stuff crap if you have no experience with it noobs so shut the heck up!

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