Poll: Old or New? What do you listen to more and why?

The Batlord · 09-14-2017, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ?

93 : CLASSIC ROCK BORES

I don't hate classic rock. I'd be a hypocrite if I said I did. How can I when I listen to bands like Sabbath , Aerosmith , Alice Cooper , Deep Purple and others on a regular basis.

However

There are a certain bunch of people who seem to think music died in 1990s. That nothing since can even touch what was around in the 70s. The sort of people who consider Guns & Roses and Nirvana the last 'good bands' to come out.

I mean how depressing must it be if you are a fan of music and your list of favourite albums looks like this

1. Pet Sounds
2. Sgt Pepper
3. Dark Side Of The Moon
4. IV
5. Tommy

I mean by all means enjoy those albums if you do but just bear in mind that if you can't even bring yourself to call an album that has sold less than 10 million copies one of your favourites then i'm not going to take you seriously.

The same sort of people who moan all todays music sucks and complain about there being nothing good on the radio or TV but don't bother looking anywhere else.
The sort of people who deride hip-hop because it doesn't have 'real musicians'
The sort of people who hate electronica because 'there's no emotion in pushing buttons'

Basically people who have buried their head in the sand who clutch their copies of Led Zeppelin II close to their chests complaining that music isn't as good as it was back then.

I'm in my 30s , so is Jackhammer , so is R-T we're always looking for new things to enjoy. I might be more cynical and harder to impress than when I was when I was 20/21 but the enthusiasm is there. There's just no excuse for not making any effort to look if you consider yourself a fan of music.

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JWinters · 09-17-2017, 01:06 AM

While I do enjoy older music, most of what I listen falls within the last 25 years or so. There are a lot of important older albums I haven't gotten around to listening to.

Neapolitan · 09-17-2017, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by JWinters

While I do enjoy older music, most of what I listen falls within the last 25 years or so. There are a lot of important older albums I haven't gotten around to listening to.

Which ones? What genres?

Zer0 · 09-17-2017, 03:38 PM

My RYM stats tell me..

A large majority of the music I listen to is from the last 30 years. I guess that's considered new music, I haven't got around to listening to prehistoric stone cylinder recordings of cavemen banging on animal skins.

One of the reasons why I don't listen to as much 60's and 70's music is because I find it more difficult to relate to. I've never lived in those decades and never had any desire to. The reason why the average rating is higher is probably because I take less risks when it comes to older music. It's easier to know what albums are highly regarded and what I might have a greater chance of enjoying. While with the 00's and 10's I've been consuming music in real time, I've had to take more risks to sort the good from the average.

Dylstew · 09-18-2017, 09:52 AM

I tend to range from 80's to now. I don't know if there's more new than old. I guess most albums I listen to are 90's -to early 2000's? I might be totally off though.

Zhanteimi · 09-18-2017, 04:45 PM

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josht23musiclover · 09-25-2017, 09:52 PM

This thread was extremely interesting to me: in fact it was the impetus for me signing up.

I'm a regular poster on a Classical music forum and that (massive umbrella of a) genre is by far my favourite, although I have been exploring other genres more and more lately.

It is guessable then why this thread was of such interest: what is considered 'old music' is, for someone like me, relatively very new in the context of just how far the history of great music goes back. Even a poster who is trying to defend 'old music' can say something like:

"Lol; people who can't appreciate music from before 1980 need a nice kick in the back of the head, as most of what you guys seem to like/appreciate is either diluted, derivative of, or simply influenced heavily from what was done back in the late 60's and 70's anyway (across ALL genres), so what's stopping you from spelunking some and seeing what you might have missed?

Personally, I'm also somewhere in the middle. I keep an eye what comes out regularly, but I don't make-believe that there isn't forty to fifty years of great music behind this generation either."

It's fascinating to me that this poster, defending old music, considers there to be only "forty to fifty years of great music behind this generaton." Classical has literally only been mentioned once in this entire thread: in a thread of 'old music', it is simply as if over a thousand years of music doesn't exist, and that music started fifty years ago.

I don't mean for this post to seem bitter or antagonising (I'm generally very open-minded and accepting of what people listen to/the trends of listening), but rather am simply observing something that seems very unusual to someone with my musical paradigms.

**Frownland** · 09-25-2017, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by josht23musiclover

This thread was extremely interesting to me: in fact it was the impetus for me signing up.

I'm a regular poster on a Classical music forum and that (massive umbrella of a) genre is by far my favourite, although I have been exploring other genres more and more lately.

It is guessable then why this thread was of such interest: what is considered 'old music' is, for someone like me, relatively very new in the context of just how far the history of great music goes back. Even a poster who is trying to defend 'old music' can say something like:

"Lol; people who can't appreciate music from before 1980 need a nice kick in the back of the head, as most of what you guys seem to like/appreciate is either diluted, derivative of, or simply influenced heavily from what was done back in the late 60's and 70's anyway (across ALL genres), so what's stopping you from spelunking some and seeing what you might have missed?

Personally, I'm also somewhere in the middle. I keep an eye what comes out regularly, but I don't make-believe that there isn't forty to fifty years of great music behind this generation either."

It's fascinating to me that this poster, defending old music, considers there to be only "forty to fifty years of great music behind this generaton." Classical has literally only been mentioned once in this entire thread: in a thread of 'old music', it is simply as if it does not even exist and that music started 50 years ago.

I don't mean for this post to seem bitter or antagonising (I'm generally very open-minded and accepting of what people listen to/the trends of listening), but rather am simply observing something that seems very unusual to someone who comes from a certain paradigm.

Welcome to the forum. I get where you're coming from, but I think that there are some pretty straightforward social influences at play. Musical recording technology only goes back so far, which makes music that was created in the modern times easier to access. These recording advances led to the focus shifting from the composer to the performer, with extra attention being pointed at nuances. I think that The Beatles played a big role in connecting the performer and the composer and that has snowballed to the point where people equate the two. This introduces an extra step for modern listeners trying to become informed on classical music: they have to research the best composers, and then they have to find the best performers for that composer's works. That's a step that's often missed when they hear a high school band perform Ode to Joy. The internet age has made it very easy to circumvent this, but let's not pretend like people use the internet to its fullest advantage.

josht23musiclover · 09-27-2017, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Welcome to the forum. I get where you're coming from, but I think that there are some pretty straightforward social influences at play. Musical recording technology only goes back so far, which makes music that was created in the modern times easier to access. These recording advances led to the focus shifting from the composer to the performer, with extra attention being pointed at nuances. I think that The Beatles played a big role in connecting the performer and the composer and that has snowballed to the point where people equate the two. This introduces an extra step for modern listeners trying to become informed on classical music: they have to research the best composers, and then they have to find the best performers for that composer's works. That's a step that's often missed when they hear a high school band perform Ode to Joy. The internet age has made it very easy to circumvent this, but let's not pretend like people use the internet to its fullest advantage.

Interesting points

Makes sense to me.

innerspaceboy · 09-27-2017, 12:00 PM

I was curious how my listening ranges from old to new so I ran some metrics from my database and manually keyed the 100 most prominent years of content from my library into a spreadsheet and produced some graphs mapping the results.

Given the great disparity between total recordings in one decade vs another I found that I had to break the graphs up into three different segments of years in order to make the data function effectively. Broad ranges of years with fewer than 300 occurrences would otherwise produce a flatline if mapped alongside years with several thousand occurrences, so please note that the range on the Y-axis varies from graph to graph.

Here are my results based on the top 100,000 recordings in my library.

In summary, there is a significant representation of recordings composed in 1928, with 885 occurances. This is almost entirely due to a vast collection of Benny Goodman recordings I acquired a while back.

The next major spike occurs between 1970 and 1979, represented by a significant archive of kosmische musik. A large contributor to this section is The Progressive-Kraut-Psych-Avant-Garde Rock Collection, encompassing nearly 10,000 complete album recordings of the genre.

1990 begins another significant mark where each year introduces 1000 or more recordings, peaking at 2006 with 5,402 in that year alone.

My near-rabid listening tapers off after 2013, with 300-600 albums a year and only 100 thus far in 2017.

I find of late I'm spending less time ravenously consuming music and engaged in other, more introspective activities.

I hope that suffices to answer the question of the thread!

09-17-2017, 03:38 PM	#84 (permalink)
Zer0 ∞ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Ireland Posts: 3,792	My RYM stats tell me.. A large majority of the music I listen to is from the last 30 years. I guess that's considered new music, I haven't got around to listening to prehistoric stone cylinder recordings of cavemen banging on animal skins. One of the reasons why I don't listen to as much 60's and 70's music is because I find it more difficult to relate to. I've never lived in those decades and never had any desire to. The reason why the average rating is higher is probably because I take less risks when it comes to older music. It's easier to know what albums are highly regarded and what I might have a greater chance of enjoying. While with the 00's and 10's I've been consuming music in real time, I've had to take more risks to sort the good from the average. __________________ Last FM \| RYM \| The Final Sound

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09-25-2017, 09:52 PM	#87 (permalink)
josht23musiclover Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2017 Posts: 91	This thread was extremely interesting to me: in fact it was the impetus for me signing up. I'm a regular poster on a Classical music forum and that (massive umbrella of a) genre is by far my favourite, although I have been exploring other genres more and more lately. It is guessable then why this thread was of such interest: what is considered 'old music' is, for someone like me, relatively very new in the context of just how far the history of great music goes back. Even a poster who is trying to defend 'old music' can say something like: "Lol; people who can't appreciate music from before 1980 need a nice kick in the back of the head, as most of what you guys seem to like/appreciate is either diluted, derivative of, or simply influenced heavily from what was done back in the late 60's and 70's anyway (across ALL genres), so what's stopping you from spelunking some and seeing what you might have missed? Personally, I'm also somewhere in the middle. I keep an eye what comes out regularly, but I don't make-believe that there isn't forty to fifty years of great music behind this generation either." It's fascinating to me that this poster, defending old music, considers there to be only "forty to fifty years of great music behind this generaton." Classical has literally only been mentioned once in this entire thread: in a thread of 'old music', it is simply as if over a thousand years of music doesn't exist, and that music started fifty years ago. I don't mean for this post to seem bitter or antagonising (I'm generally very open-minded and accepting of what people listen to/the trends of listening), but rather am simply observing something that seems very unusual to someone with my musical paradigms. Last edited by josht23musiclover; 09-25-2017 at 10:00 PM.

09-17-2017, 01:06 AM	#82 (permalink)
JWinters Groupie Join Date: Sep 2017 Posts: 22	While I do enjoy older music, most of what I listen falls within the last 25 years or so. There are a lot of important older albums I haven't gotten around to listening to.

09-18-2017, 09:52 AM	#85 (permalink)
Dylstew Music Addict Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 1,366	I tend to range from 80's to now. I don't know if there's more new than old. I guess most albums I listen to are 90's -to early 2000's? I might be totally off though.