Does anyone agreee that there is too much music out there? (alternative, dance)

simonelli · 04-15-2009, 07:47 PM

Yeah, with the advent of home recording with computers, everyones a musician now.

The Music Watchtower · 04-16-2009, 03:40 AM

My Goodness!! It has taken me ages to read through all of your posts...

Ok, you are a mixed bunch as to whether or not there is too much music out there...

Well while I was away, this conversation took place a few times during my holiday with a fellow musician and his view was slightly different. He said that he feels that there is way too much thought going into music by individuals and not enough guys who happen to be friends just jamming. (Individuals are making music more so than bands coming together to find their sound jamming, then making music.) He quoted something that he thinks was said by one of The Beatles, which was, 'we jam together until we have something that sounds familiar and then we know we have a song' I don't know the truth of that but my friend does have a point.

The commercial pop music has been based on similar things throughout the ages;- good looks, sex, image and catchy music. The only thing that has gone wrong with this kind of music over the years is that from the early '80's it has been getting progressively worse.

The guitar bands and iconic figures of the the bygone era's are still playing a big influence in what modern music has produced. New bands who's music has lent their sound to, is a result of the influence of bands from that bygone era, and I'm not talking about the '80's, '90's or 00's.

Lets ask the next question, why has there not been any original iconic figures/bands since the '80's of the scale of previous decades?

Zarko · 04-16-2009, 03:45 AM

Dunno, Nirvana we're pretty big...

Either way, I like Mr Dave's approach on the matter... In ye olde days, everyone was subject to the exact same fads/ideas by mass media. If there was something gaining momentum, it would dominate radio/TV/news, and it would have an impact purely because there are so many people focused on it at once. With the internet, more people are experiencing something before the majority do, or there are more avenues for people to experience music rather than just the radio or TV. They can pick what they listen to more than in the past decades, and more often than not, its not whats being rammed down your throat on the radio.

I am sure Mr Dave can explain the idea a little more concisely

mr dave · 04-16-2009, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Zarko

I am sure Mr Dave can explain the idea a little more concisely

nah you pretty much got it hehe

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 04-16-2009, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by The Unfan

The industry has always been just that, an industry. It is a business and so those involved with it are seeking money. They released what was marketable at the time, as do industries now. Just because you found the marketable music of whatever era more likeable than the marketable music of today doesn't mean it wasn't the same crap. You'd be naive to think Pink Floyd weren't busy wondering about what to wear at their performances or how to part their hair. It was all just as prefabricated as today's. Besides, there were plenty of great bands from back in the day that we haven't heard and probably never will. Just like today there are great artists you've never heard.

This is true, and I think that's what makes music so appealing, there's a sense of mystery to it. If you're resourceful enough you will be able to find the lesser known bands/artists and appreciate the beauty of music that hasn't been industrialized.

~~Gareth Brown~~ · 04-16-2009, 01:55 PM

Music is great and always will be great. The reason people bitch is because there isn't any obvious 'movement' right now (punk, rave, hippie, blah blah) going on.

**Janszoon** · 04-16-2009, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Gareth Brown

Music is great and always will be great. The reason people bitch is because there isn't any obvious 'movement' right now (punk, rave, hippie, blah blah) going on.

I think movements tend to be more obvious in retrospect anyway.

=ladyface= · 04-16-2009, 02:23 PM

It can be overwhelming.

Rainard Jalen · 04-16-2009, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by The Music Watchtower

Hi All,

It is hard to get close to good music unless you are very lucky. You can spend hours, days, weeks or even years getting through everyone's myspace or social networking site and not find much or more of the same.

Yeah. You looking in the wrong places, buddy. Go to more well informed sources and you'll find great material with ease.

boo boo · 04-16-2009, 03:57 PM

I like simplicity.

I just find that a lot of punk and indie takes the concept a little too far.

I can't find much admiration in bands who write one chord riff songs that I could have written myself without even trying. It's like a lot of punk and indie bands just crap stuff out.

And when Pitchfork makes them out to be masterpieces while writing off musicians who actually DO spend the time to polish and structure their music as pretentious wankery, well it just makes me mad, it's an insult to real musicians.

If anything, it's the other way around.

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The Music Watchtower Groupie Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Cork, Ireland Posts: 13	Does anyone agreee that there is too much music out there? My Goodness!! It has taken me ages to read through all of your posts... Ok, you are a mixed bunch as to whether or not there is too much music out there... Well while I was away, this conversation took place a few times during my holiday with a fellow musician and his view was slightly different. He said that he feels that there is way too much thought going into music by individuals and not enough guys who happen to be friends just jamming. (Individuals are making music more so than bands coming together to find their sound jamming, then making music.) He quoted something that he thinks was said by one of The Beatles, which was, 'we jam together until we have something that sounds familiar and then we know we have a song' I don't know the truth of that but my friend does have a point. The commercial pop music has been based on similar things throughout the ages;- good looks, sex, image and catchy music. The only thing that has gone wrong with this kind of music over the years is that from the early '80's it has been getting progressively worse. The guitar bands and iconic figures of the the bygone era's are still playing a big influence in what modern music has produced. New bands who's music has lent their sound to, is a result of the influence of bands from that bygone era, and I'm not talking about the '80's, '90's or 00's. Lets ask the next question, why has there not been any original iconic figures/bands since the '80's of the scale of previous decades?

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Zarko Barely Disheveled Zombie Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 1,196	Dunno, Nirvana we're pretty big... Either way, I like Mr Dave's approach on the matter... In ye olde days, everyone was subject to the exact same fads/ideas by mass media. If there was something gaining momentum, it would dominate radio/TV/news, and it would have an impact purely because there are so many people focused on it at once. With the internet, more people are experiencing something before the majority do, or there are more avenues for people to experience music rather than just the radio or TV. They can pick what they listen to more than in the past decades, and more often than not, its not whats being rammed down your throat on the radio. I am sure Mr Dave can explain the idea a little more concisely

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~~Gareth Brown~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 295	Music is great and always will be great. The reason people bitch is because there isn't any obvious 'movement' right now (punk, rave, hippie, blah blah) going on.