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Engine 11-04-2009 12:52 PM

No way. It's in English or I won't hear it.
Of course, that's a joke - as it is I can barely understand the English words used in a lot of the music I like and I don't necessarily give a shit about lyrics in the first place.

CanwllCorfe 11-04-2009 01:37 PM

All the time! I think it's really interesting tbh. I used to listen to Rammstein.. well I still do along with Peter Heppner, Ruoska, and Furia. Since I usually listen to electronic music that doesn't normally have lyrics it doesn't bother me that I don't understand them.

Flower Child 11-04-2009 04:27 PM

I would, and I do. I personally look at the voice as just another instrument. A guitar doesn't spell out for you what point its trying to get across, its up to you to decide and to just listen and enjoy. I think theres a certain mystery and interest that comes with a song in a different language. Some of my all-time favorite songs are by Buena Vista Social Club. I have no idea what they are singing about, I think thats why I enjoy it so much. Its up to me to decide what they are singing about. I don't want to know what they are singing about because I have conjured up in my mind what it think its about and I'm afraid if I look at a translation, I would be dissapointed. Anyway, a beautiful voice is a beautiful voice whether you can understand what its saying or not. Just my thoughts.

ElephantSack 11-04-2009 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by music_phantom13 (Post 762124)
Sure. Even Immortal Technique uses some Spanish once in a while. I like Stereolab, and their music is pretty split French/English. Her voice works with the music so well that if it's in French and I have no idea what the words are, it still works as an instrument for the song. If it sounds good I really don't care what language the singer uses.

That's right. It's pretty ****in' tight how he just flows in and out from English to Spanish and back. Immortal Technique is my favorite hip hop, by the way, along with The Roots.

jazztrumpetlicks 11-24-2009 08:29 PM

I most definitely would.

There is so much great music in the world that you simply just cannot ignore what's out there.

Dr.Seussicide 11-24-2009 08:33 PM

Of course, a lot of the best screamo isn't even in fucking English, but goddamn its good :)

queenej 11-27-2009 09:19 PM

I listen to non-english music ALL the time. I love Russian stuff as of late.:bowdown:

bullettoedenrocks 11-29-2009 05:32 PM

Envy from Japan are amazing I sing in Japanese. The lanaguage makes no difference as long as its good.

proto-punk 12-02-2009 10:06 AM

yeah i like to listen to other languages sing but sometimes, some type of languages sound a little weird when sung. it wouldnt make me go learn a language or anything lol

Liljagare 12-02-2009 11:14 AM

I like listening to music from around the world...it is interesting to see what is going on in terms of music in other countries even if I don't understand always what they are saying. And it would be kind of boring (at least for me) to limit music to languages I understand.


And if you are interested in different punk groups from around the world, here
is one of my favourites, Ebba Grön.



coolblaze 12-03-2009 07:37 AM

I listen to non-english music almost every day :)

million dollar basher 12-03-2009 12:22 PM

Not sure why this is in the "Punk" Forum--seems like it would be more appropriate to place it in "World Music", but I digress.
Yeah, some of my favorite music in high school was non-english. Stereolab was one of my favorites, especially because they seemed to directly influence one of my favorite American groups, The Rentals. Also, Dead Can Dance was a great group to listen to, creepy and ominous stuff.

Psy-Fi 12-12-2009 11:19 PM

Music is a universal language, everyone can understand it, The lyrics are of secondary importance to me.
If you limit yourself to listening to music only in a language you understand, you will miss out on a lot of interesting musical experiences.

bardonodude 12-14-2009 02:18 PM

i do this all the time with yelle and that one nofx song thats in french...well other bands too but thats just a general reference

Zaqarbal 01-05-2010 07:54 AM

Hmmm... I don't know what to think about this. On one hand, I could agree with NumberNineDream:

Quote:

Originally Posted by NumberNineDream (Post 758538)
I do a lot and mainly Spanish and German songs. Not understanding the language makes me focus more on the melody and the performance of the artist. But I do usually search for the lyrics' meanings (or just the lyrics) when I get obsessed with the song.

Tho a lot of times I memorize a song entirely by sound without understanding a single word (usually I'd be pronouncing everything wrong, but who cares as long as I'm singing along :D)

For example, this funny cover of Wonderwall is based on that idea:



Authors and listeners of the cover don't care about what lyrics say. It could be anything.

On the other hand, many times I've thought that, without understanding the lyrics, a song cannot be fully appreciated. Also: What happens with rhyming songs? The same Wonderwall, for instance. Or Voy en un coche, which I mentioned in other thread yesterday. It's a catchy song, and, as Molecules said, "Spanish is f*cking hot". :) So, many people would like it. But there is something more: the rhyme.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zaqarbal (Post 793173)

Spanish.................................................English

Voy en un coche que robé anoche......... I go in a car that I stole last night
a un tipo listo que iba a ligar..................from a smart guy who tried to get off with me
Es un spyder con dos asientos,...............It's a two-seat spyder,
coge doscientos sin apretar....................it gets to 200 easy.

Los camioneros cuelgan sonrisas.............Truck drivers hang smiles
del parabrisas cuando me ven.................on the windshield when they see me.
Soy la Princesa de la autopista.................I am the Princess of the highway
y hasta los polis besan mis pies...............and even the cops kiss my feet.

Quiero llegar muy lejos,..........................I want to go very far,
casi casi hasta el final,............................almost, almost right to the end,
donde nadie da consejos,........................where no one gives advice,
pasando la frontera.................................passing the border
con un calavera......................................with a skull
tatuada en el cristal................................tattooed in the glass.

Rhyme? Lost in translation.

The point is that, to value the merit of making a rhyme, you also have to know the meaning of the words. It's not simply a matter of phonetics. Obviously, you can be aware of the similarity between sounds. But if you don't understand the language, you don't know how difficult or how simple is to integrate music and lyrics into a coherent whole.

Do you know what I mean?

indietrash3 01-06-2010 01:57 PM

haven't read the whole thread but posting to say that music's an international language. while I do appreciate being able to get the lyrics, the melody will always come first to me. so, yes I listen to music that has lyrics in languages I don't know.

årolilja 01-06-2010 02:00 PM

I listen to some bands whose lyrics I'm glad I don't understand.

24Nathan 01-14-2010 09:52 PM

Original question: Yes. The English language is not on my checklist for a good song.

Scissorman 01-22-2010 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NumberNineDream (Post 758538)
I do a lot and mainly Spanish and German songs. Not understanding the language makes me focus more on the melody and the performance of the artist. But I do usually search for the lyrics' meanings (or just the lyrics) when I get obsessed with the song.

Tho a lot of times I memorize a song entirely by sound without understanding a single word (usually I'd be pronouncing everything wrong, but who cares as long as I'm singing along :D)

Edit:

Here's an example, from an album I memorized entirely and still don't know that's which language:


LoL that is Serbian :D

NumberNineDream 01-22-2010 02:24 PM

^ Bah I know. It just confused me, cause the whole film goes on about the ex-Yugoslavia and such.
Any other Serbian music you know, cause I can't get enough of it.

Scissorman 01-22-2010 02:35 PM

well, I know a lot of Serbian music, being from Serbia and all, but I mostly dislike it. If I dig up something worth mentioning I'll post it for you. Or I might just start a Serbian music thread. :D

NumberNineDream 01-22-2010 02:36 PM

^ You better :D

jackhammer 01-22-2010 04:40 PM

I'm a Cocteau Twins fan so the answer is obviously yes.

sidewinder 01-22-2010 04:47 PM

Back in the day, I always preferred stuff in English even if I didn't really understand the words or care what they were saying.

Then I discovered progressive rock.

duga 01-22-2010 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 814961)
I'm a Cocteau Twins fan so the answer is obviously yes.

they are probably the epitome of music where you can't understand the lyrics and everyone likes it. a big criticism for four calendar cafe was that you could understand some of what she was singing.

rockgoddess 01-22-2010 04:57 PM

I listen to Rammstein, which I really like, even though I don't understand a word of German.
I also listen to alot of death metal bands, which although in English, with the aggressive style of vocals they use, means I don't necessarily understand every word of the song. One of my favourites is Cannibal Corpse.

TheCunningStunt 01-22-2010 08:23 PM

No, I would not.

almonds 01-24-2010 01:38 AM

I went through a period of listening to French Rap. There are a few other types of music as well. I listen to a couple of instrumental bands such as 12 Girls Band. Normally the type of world music I get a hold of is when I'm thinking, "Hey, I wonder what their music sounds like." I google for a few and find a lot. I remember I wanted to hear some yodeling like what was stereotypically done in Switzerland. All I could find was country-yodeling.

There's just so much music out there and it's hard to even just limit yourself in one genre of another country's music. It would be awesome to know every song ever sun and ever piece ever played, but it's obviously difficult. Even knowing that there are plenty of bands in the U.S. who become popular in the underground/indie scene rather than pop radio and such shows the difficulty of mastering such a feat as you wanted.

But it's still nice to listen to something different.

What'sNext? 01-24-2010 06:52 PM

I don't think most people would care. Lady GaGa doesn't even use real words. The Beatles used to record second versions of songs in German so that people would listen to them. It didn't take them long to realize that nobody cares.

andrewy 01-26-2010 06:07 AM

Yes some songs are popular because of their beats and rhythm... even they don`t understand any words remember "Dragostea din tei" the song performed by O-zone band

Scissorman 01-26-2010 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewy (Post 816820)
Yes some songs are popular because of their beats and rhythm... even they don`t understand any words remember "Dragostea din tei" the song performed by O-zone band

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CaseNumber:825 01-26-2010 12:58 PM

Most of the music I listen to is in a different language

I'm English.... most of my favourite singers are Japanese, Korean or Chinese

My favourite singer for example:



^^^ the advert/preview for her upcoming Best of + 8th Original album

Also... she was able to cover an English song and greatly improve it

noise 01-26-2010 01:04 PM

of course i would. icelandic, polish, russian, german... even gibberish made-up languages.

sometimes i prefer it if i can't understand the lyrics - i can just appreciate the music as pure sound.

midnight rain 01-26-2010 01:33 PM

Depends. If the accent dectracts from the quality of the music, then no. Otherwise, as long as the musical aspect is good, of course.

jerkmonkey 01-26-2010 07:21 PM

The only music I listen to that are in a different languages are ones where I find the beat enjoyable. Either then that, no thank you.

jehovan 01-28-2010 12:48 PM

Quote:

Yes some songs are popular because of their beats and rhythm... even they don`t understand any words remember "Dragostea din tei" the song performed by O-zone band.
Disgusting, but admittedly, it is a catchy tune. As all pop tunes nowadays are tailored so that basically anyone can remember them instantly.
But on topic: if you like foreign music I recommend googling/youtubing a dutch band called 'blof' (e.g. their albums 'Umoja', 'Oktober'). excellent easy rock. It's a pity if you can't understand them because their lyrics are brilliant too!

MusicManRandy 01-29-2010 03:42 AM

although I don't understand a word from portuguese, I find this language beautiful and like Brazilian songs and Br. jazz

trouserjazz 01-30-2010 09:57 AM

Of course, there is some fantastic foreign music out there. Some of my favourites are Buena Vista social club, Tazenda ( a sardinian rock/folk band) and Serge Gainsbourg.

I sometimes enjoy the fact I dont understand the words and it helps add to the music and I find you listen to the music as a whole rather than seperating the two.

bowiefan23 01-31-2010 06:58 PM

I definitely would! In fact, I already do listen to music from other countries. Right now, I'm really into Bollywood and Persian music. I first got into it from the Slumdog Millionaire soundtrack, that soundtrack is great. I recommend checking it out!

hoorayforpeepee 02-01-2010 12:32 AM

Sure I would! I speak English, Danish and a lot of German, but while most of my music is in English, I also listen to stuff in French, Spanish, Urdu, Arabic and Icelandic..


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