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alfonsoj 02-02-2010 02:37 PM

I sure would, especially if it has a good instrumental and beat.

Vancouver 02-02-2010 02:59 PM

YES!!

Ca Plane Pour Moi!!!!!

Imperfect Haze 02-02-2010 09:12 PM

'Course, it's the music that matters.

Mancini Scratch 03-02-2010 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by giorgi123 (Post 832915)
sure if i like the melody

Makes sense that.

I got a Latino Party CD all in Spanish. Can't understand a word except the odd word, but boy do I dance to it like a bastard when I'm in the mood!

eunhaelai 03-02-2010 05:17 PM

I think music translates across any language barrier when it comes to melodies, rhythms, etc. However, it's always good to know what lyrics you are listening to at times. hehe I like listening to japanese, french, and spanish music where I may know half of the song.

MaestroImpromptu 03-02-2010 05:20 PM

Yep, I do all the time, cause I listen to a lot of classical music.

TheRedChord616 03-04-2010 07:34 AM

I have tons of Japanese, Russian, Polish, Italian, Spanish, Chinese, French, Dying-Moose, and Bullfrog-croak-noise songs. It's all good. :beer:

Rocknroll_Animal 06-09-2010 02:51 AM

I listen to a lot of Romany and Cuban music, even though I don't understand either Romany or Spanish. I just feel the passion ;)

dankrsta 06-09-2010 02:55 AM

I always react to the music first and if it's good then I would bother with the lyrics even with languages I do understand. So the answer to this thread's question is definitely yes.

glastonelle 06-09-2010 03:42 AM

Sure. French, Italian and Spanish music sounds so exotic and romantic

Rhovanion 06-09-2010 04:31 AM

I listen to music in foreign languages all the time. Music is such a universal language that you don't need to understand the song to get the song.

I grew up on the Eurovision Song Contest so not being able to understand a song has been with me since before I can remember.

Zaqarbal 06-09-2010 02:40 PM

We have to distinguish between two different things:

1. To understand the language in which the song is written.
2. To know what the lyrics say.

As I said before, knowing the language allows you to appreciate more the artist's merit. But obviously this is not always possible, because you can't learn all the languages you would like to speak. However, at least you can get information on what the songs says. And thanks to the Internet, that's easier and easier. Thousands of amateur translators, common people like us, write lyrics translations on the net. I myself do my bit.

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Originally Posted by Rhovanion (Post 879616)
I listen to music in foreign languages all the time. Music is such a universal language that you don't need to understand the song to get the song.

Hmmmmm... that sounds a bit "mystic" to me. I know some people don't feel the need to understand the lyrics. Obviously it depends on the genre. In a case like this, sound is enough to enjoy like an animal (in the good sense of the word, of course :)). But I think sometimes is necessary to know the lyrics' meaning in order to appreciate the work. For instance, two months ago, I translated Vetusta Morla's Copenhagen into English. Some time before, while surfing the web, I saw how many non-Spanish speakers (including Danes) liked the song. An indeed, if you listen to it (here), specially if you're from Copenhagen, unless you are an insensitive brute you will feel "something special". But actually, as you can see in my (I hope it is good :)) translation (here), it isn't only a song about Copenhagen, but also tells about a love story between a man and a woman who meet in the city, and in addition it includes a kind of psychological descriptions.

Anyway, we can make an "experiment" right now. Listen to this another song by Vetusta Morla. Just listen, don't continue reading for now.

..

And well? Did you get it? I'm sure that it has conveyed feelings to you. But besides that (which is great, indeed), that song contains poetry. It talks about life, about the passage of time, and how affects a person. "La marea" means "The Tide". Tide is a metaphor for life. The lived life. Suppose that life (or a part of one's life) is like a tide. And when tide goes out, you observe what effects (both positive and negative) has caused on you. So, that's what this band has expressed through marine metaphors. For example: how would you refer to the good things you've lived, and which you want to remember forever? These boys have done it this amazingly poetic way:

"The tide left me silver sands
which I'll put into the hourglass of the still time
."


(whole translation here)

I mean certain things cannot be known by only listening to the music. You need some extra information on lyrics.

Finally, do you dare to interpret these two directly?:

YouTube - LA HABITACION ROJA - Scandinavia
Olaf el vikingo los nikis - goear.com

(just kidding :))

Rhovanion 06-09-2010 02:51 PM

I honestly don't really care about lyrics.

Now don't get me wrong, powerful lyrics are a fantastic thing, and of course I appreciate talented words, but I very rarely pay attention to lyrics even when I understand them. Even when I'm singing along to a song do I pay attention to the lyrics. When listening to a song in a foreign language I kind of like not knowing what they're singing about. It adds to the charm and exotic feeling.

The music itself is not going to be any better (or worse) whether or not I understand the song. At least not for me.

I think because I listen to so much instrumental music (whether it be ambient, classical or movie scores) lyrics feel so secondary.

Zaqarbal 06-09-2010 04:23 PM

Well, I guess it's a matter of taste. Subjetive and personal.

Anyway, what annoys me is that consideration of "exotic" (perhaps promoted by some media companies some years ago), as if a language made a whole genre by itself. I hate how they consider a style apart what is nothing but a linguistic classification. That doesn't happen in Literature or Cinema. I still don't know what the hell Latin means, every time I try to mark the genre of an mp3 file in a media player. Julius Caesar playing the electric guitar, Cicero rocking the bass and Octavian at the drums. For Jupiter's shake!

Dom 06-09-2010 04:25 PM

I find it's harder to get into songs with a foreign language but yes, I sometimes listen to songs I can't understand, most of them I wouldn't consider great though, just cool sounding and quite catchy really. Like some of CSS's stuff.

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Originally Posted by Zaqarbal (Post 879901)
Anyway, what annoys me is that consideration of "exotic" (perhaps promoted by some media companies some years ago), as if a language made a whole genre by itself. I hate how they consider a style apart what is nothing but a linguistic classification. That doesn't happen in Literature or Cinema. I still don't know what the hell Latin means, every time I try to mark the genre of an mp3 file in a media player. Julius Caesar playing the electric guitar, Cicero rocking the bass and Octavian at the drums. For Jupiter's shake!

I know what you mean, it annoys me too that they seem to get their own genre for a different language but Latin music is basically music in a Latin-derived language.

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Originally Posted by Wikipedia
Latin music is very diverse, with the only truly unifying thread being the use of Latin-derived languages, predominantly the Spanish language, the Portuguese language in Brazil, and to a lesser extent, Latin-derived creole languages, such as those found in Haiti.


Strychnine 06-09-2010 04:31 PM

I listen to a lot of musicians who sing in a different language. It's not important to me if the music is groovy, and sometimes they just speak to me regardless of language. For isntance, I love Jacques Brel and Serge Gainsbourg is fun too and they both sing in French. Einsturzende Neubauten is amazing. Sigur Ros is very touching. etc.

Tea Supremacist 06-09-2010 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhovanion (Post 879836)
I honestly don't really care about lyrics.

Now don't get me wrong, powerful lyrics are a fantastic thing, and of course I appreciate talented words, but I very rarely pay attention to lyrics even when I understand them. Even when I'm singing along to a song do I pay attention to the lyrics. When listening to a song in a foreign language I kind of like not knowing what they're singing about. It adds to the charm and exotic feeling.

The music itself is not going to be any better (or worse) whether or not I understand the song. At least not for me.

I think because I listen to so much instrumental music (whether it be ambient, classical or movie scores) lyrics feel so secondary.

I more or less agree with you - for me, when it comes to a particular kind of band (When I first heard Sigur Ros generally springs to mind) the lyrics aren't so important.

To be honest, I caan't say I ever really gave much thought to whether it's important to understand the lyrics. It's one thing hearing a song you understand and thinking 'yeah, those are great lyrics' but I wouldn't go out of my way to translate what I don't understand. I'm pretty happy to enjoy a song or piece of music on face value most of the time.

clutnuckle 06-09-2010 06:07 PM

In a lot of music, even if I can't understand what they're saying sometimes (Let's use "Sometimes" by MBV as an example), you might know what they're talking about just based on how their voice sounds. It's easy to tell what "Sometimes" is about thematically, really. The emotion is easily connected to you. If I can take something out of the way they speak, what they're saying doesn't matter as much as it would before.

Rhovanion 06-09-2010 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tea Supremacist (Post 879912)
I more or less agree with you - for me, when it comes to a particular kind of band (When I first heard Sigur Ros generally springs to mind) the lyrics aren't so important.

To be honest, I caan't say I ever really gave much thought to whether it's important to understand the lyrics. It's one thing hearing a song you understand and thinking 'yeah, those are great lyrics' but I wouldn't go out of my way to translate what I don't understand. I'm pretty happy to enjoy a song or piece of music on face value most of the time.

Yup this is exactly how I feel too! :)

Zaqarbal 06-09-2010 08:48 PM

OK. Definitely it's a matter of taste. The only "problem" are all those crazy indies singing humorous, bizarre and crude lyrics in a dreamy and romantic way:

YouTube - Los Punsetes - Tus Amigos
YouTube - Los Punsetes Maricas
YouTube - Klaus&Kinski-En la cama
YouTube - klaus and kinski - La mano de Santa Teresa (fotos)
YouTube - Adoro a las pijas de mi ciudad-La costa brava
Derribos Arias - Brankias bajo el agua derribos arias - brankias bajo el agua - goear.com

Honestly, it makes me laugh when I imagine someone listening to these songs and saying: "Oh, it's so romantic!", "I love this exotic foreign pop!"... :)

Needless to say what they sing. For sure you don't want to know it, do you? :)

Keigh 06-10-2010 08:13 AM

Music is music to me. Im not into lyrics that much anyway. There's no denying a great song with good lyrics but a language barrier has never stopped me from enjoying good music, no matter where it comes from. Sometimes you can feel a song's intent through the performance even if you can't understand the words. One of my favorites is Youssou N'dor from Senegal who has worked with Peter Gabriel. He sings in his native language, mbalax and french. Also Israeli pop singer, Noa who sings in her native language, yemenite hebrew as well as arabic, french, spanish, italian, thai and english.




21stCenturyAndroidMan 06-11-2010 12:44 AM

Sigur Ros, can't understand a word but I love them.

austinmiller 06-11-2010 01:21 AM

If we are only talking about the music here, I admit I would like to listen to the music from any part of the world. But when it comes to the lyrics, I would certainly not waste my time to listen a song in any weird unknown language.

Zaqarbal 06-12-2010 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tea Supremacist (Post 879912)
It's one thing hearing a song you understand and thinking 'yeah, those are great lyrics' but I wouldn't go out of my way to translate what I don't understand.

Actually you don't have to translate anything. Translations are already made. They are on the Internet, available for anyone who wants to have a look.

To bother to consult them or not, depends on several things (music genre, personal tastes, band or singer's features, etc.). Sometimes the strong point of a band or a singer are lyrics. Sometimes just the sound. Sometimes both things. But if I find out that certain artist I like stands out for his lyrics, I personally don't mind taking two minutes to read a translation. Unfortunately I don't have those paranormal abilities to grasp the "essences" of a song that some people seem to own. :(


*EDIT. To clarify my own ideas I've decided to put an example from a specially talented singer-songwriter. That is, one of those cases in which knowing the lyrics could be interesting for a music lover. Extract from Ne me quite pas (Jacques Brel):

"Moi je t'offrirai
Des perles de pluie
Venues de pays
Où il ne pleut pas
"

OK, so, listeners who don't speak French can be divided in three groups:

A. Those who don't care if the guy says "I'll offer you pearls of rain that come from countries where rain never falls" (which is what he really sings) or "I hate this f***ing Parisian weather".
B. Those who are confident that their paranormal capacities work propely, in order to get the meaning mentally.
C. Those who decide to consult a translation on the Internet.



Nadia 06-17-2010 01:51 PM

I listen to Iranian music, and I can only understand a little of it, but I really like it. Although lyrics are important, it won't put me off if I don't understand them.

Hank The Drifter 06-17-2010 01:58 PM

Alright, I'm very strange when it comes to this.

I listen to a lot of metal where I've got absolutely no idea what is being said and most of the time don't care because lets face it [most] metal isn't known for its strong lyrics. With that being said, if I'm listening to something with clean vocals I want to be able to understand what the person is saying. Sadly, I'm normally turned off by really strange [strange to my ears anyway, lol] foreign accents.

Overall though, yes and no. It really just depends. I'm one of those people that when I'm alone listening to things I like to mouth the words and such so I like understanding them.

chiara73d 06-17-2010 03:24 PM

Yeah, I love Vocaloid! It's in Japanese.

Jumby 06-18-2010 03:47 AM

I like Sigor Ros very much - and I don't think anyone understands their lyrics...

TheFolkslave 06-18-2010 06:28 AM

Lyrics aren't always that important for me anyway so it doesn't matter if I understand them or not. It's more about the tone of the voice and how it fits with the music. Also Im really into instrumental music so no lyrics there either.
Besides Sigur Rós which everyone seems to love (rightfully so since they are just amazing.) I love this german band called Empyrium. Their last album was completely in german. I understand some german but not that much and I still enjoy this album immensly.






thomasglickman 06-18-2010 09:32 AM

I really don't mind listening to music I don't understand as long as the beat and blend are great.

musicm 08-03-2011 01:43 PM

The non-english songs I listen to are mostly japanese or spanish.
Miyavi is my favorite japanese artist. From Spain I like Mago De Oz.

BloodFoxTK 08-03-2011 02:03 PM

yes. easy.

some of my favourite bands are japanese.
one being: "High and Mighty Color".

SIRIUSB 08-03-2011 02:06 PM

I listen to music in other languages, I remember reading somewhere that Azam Ali learned to sing in 'nonsense' words that have an exotic flavor to them, I thought that was pretty cool.

killcreek 08-03-2011 02:44 PM

i listen to old falco songs sung in german

[MERIT] 08-03-2011 05:46 PM

I'm not opposed to the idea of listening to music in a language that I don't understand. Albeit my only divergence into it thus far would be some Spanish and French rap that I've heard here and there. I like to hold on to the idea that music can be a universal language, embraced and enjoyed by everyone.

Electrophonic Tonic 08-03-2011 06:13 PM

I listen to Magma and have no problem with it. Then again, who listens to prog for the singing anyway?

Ben Butler 08-04-2011 08:31 AM

Yes, if it sounds good, why not? It's not all about identifying with the lyrics.

Howard the Duck 08-04-2011 08:47 AM

sure

it sounds exotic

you can't get really get more aggressive than German or Japanese because it's very guttural

and Arabic music sound like Quranic prayers set to music

Insane Guest 08-04-2011 02:44 PM

Whoever says no to this question needs to listen to Sigurd Ros "Takk..."

Paedantic Basterd 08-04-2011 02:49 PM

I try to get a couple of foreign albums in every batch of downloads I do. Ultimately it's about how good the music is, but I also find that different languages really change the vocals (outside of mere comprehension of lyrics). I do prefer some languages over others.


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