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Old 11-03-2009, 04:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
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One of my favourite artists is Manu Chao and I regularly listen to him. I also listen to Yann Tiersen, Ska-P and Tokyo Ska Paradise Orchestra. They're all foriegn language music that I enjoy, I dont listen to much of it though in all fairness.
I'm going to his concert next week
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And in the subject, I usually listen to a lot of music with lyrics I don't understand. But then comes a time where I search for the meanings, cause I do generally give a high regard to lyrics, and it helps me learn a new language.

It is how I learned English (I guess it would be weird citing English as a foreign language in here)
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Old 11-03-2009, 04:53 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Yes, i suspect the most popular group for this are Rammstein, famous world wide and all in German.
Yup yup, I definitely listen to Rammstein! I love the way the german sounds with that kind of music, the overall sound of the language just fits.... i don't actually know anyone else who listens to them though.. which is interesting since they are as you say so popular otherwise.

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Right so a few years ago a song called Boten Anna was released by Basshunter (I welcome a slagging I deserve it) and I remember listening to it and knowing all the words (In Swedish) and having no idea what it meant. I enjoyed the lyrics, but the song not so much. Even though I couldnt fully apreciate the lyrics cos they were in swedish, but they were still catchy. Someone told me it was translated into the song we all know and hate, Now Youre Gone. I never bothered to look it up though. Anyways I was a pup when this all happend and its only been in the past 2/3 years I've developed a taste in music. So feel free to rip me a new arsehole. I deserve it for listening to him.
I actually really like Basshunter, but its in the same way that i can say I like most pop music, like 3OH!3 for example. Its not because its particualarly good music, it just is kinda catchy. Nothing to be ashamed of in that


As far as other not-so-popular music in other languages, i must say my horizons are a bit limited in that area. I have yet to really explore music to discover what I really look for, but i know that harmonies and musical structure are just as important or more important than lyrics-- no matter what language its in, the meaning is going to communicate itself anyway.

I'm gonna go look up all these french artists now :P
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Old 11-03-2009, 05:52 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I actually really like Basshunter, but its in the same way that i can say I like most pop music, like 3OH!3 for example. Its not because its particualarly good music, it just is kinda catchy. Nothing to be ashamed of in that
I'm sure the guy has more potential than like "Electro/Pop" or whatever his genre is. But when I was younger I would listen to him.. Cause my friends did, it was a rut I kinda got into. Hes Swedish (I think), he should be a hardcore master by my calculations . Thats just my preference though, he definetly has a market, it just doesn't necessarily need to appeal to me.
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Old 11-03-2009, 05:57 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I listen to lots of stuff in Japanese - Acid Mothers, Les Rallizes, OOIOO, etc - and a fair amount in various African languages ... I do wonder what they're singing about, but on the other hand I think I prefer not knowing a lot of the time, that way I'm not disappointed
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Old 11-03-2009, 06:01 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I listen to lots of stuff in Japanese - Acid Mothers, Les Rallizes, OOIOO, etc - and a fair amount in various African languages ... I do wonder what they're singing about, but on the other hand I think I prefer not knowing a lot of the time, that way I'm not disappointed
I know what you mean, shit lyrics can put me off a song. But the lyrics being in a different language you never know what the lyrics are as long as they flow with each other. I'm not to bothered about the words, sometimes I get curious, like I know the words to Boten Anna & Tarkans Kiss Kiss in their original language and don't like them in English at all really.
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Old 11-04-2009, 12:47 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I regularly listen to Gorky's Zygotic Mynci & The Super Furry Animals and to be honest most of the time their Welsh accents are so strong I can't tell the bloody difference between the English language songs & the Welsh language songs.
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Old 11-04-2009, 12:52 PM   #7 (permalink)
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No way. It's in English or I won't hear it.
Of course, that's a joke - as it is I can barely understand the English words used in a lot of the music I like and I don't necessarily give a shit about lyrics in the first place.
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I listen to music in foreign languages all the time. Music is such a universal language that you don't need to understand the song to get the song.

I grew up on the Eurovision Song Contest so not being able to understand a song has been with me since before I can remember.
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We have to distinguish between two different things:

1. To understand the language in which the song is written.
2. To know what the lyrics say.

As I said before, knowing the language allows you to appreciate more the artist's merit. But obviously this is not always possible, because you can't learn all the languages you would like to speak. However, at least you can get information on what the songs says. And thanks to the Internet, that's easier and easier. Thousands of amateur translators, common people like us, write lyrics translations on the net. I myself do my bit.

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I listen to music in foreign languages all the time. Music is such a universal language that you don't need to understand the song to get the song.
Hmmmmm... that sounds a bit "mystic" to me. I know some people don't feel the need to understand the lyrics. Obviously it depends on the genre. In a case like this, sound is enough to enjoy like an animal (in the good sense of the word, of course ). But I think sometimes is necessary to know the lyrics' meaning in order to appreciate the work. For instance, two months ago, I translated Vetusta Morla's Copenhagen into English. Some time before, while surfing the web, I saw how many non-Spanish speakers (including Danes) liked the song. An indeed, if you listen to it (here), specially if you're from Copenhagen, unless you are an insensitive brute you will feel "something special". But actually, as you can see in my (I hope it is good ) translation (here), it isn't only a song about Copenhagen, but also tells about a love story between a man and a woman who meet in the city, and in addition it includes a kind of psychological descriptions.

Anyway, we can make an "experiment" right now. Listen to this another song by Vetusta Morla. Just listen, don't continue reading for now.

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And well? Did you get it? I'm sure that it has conveyed feelings to you. But besides that (which is great, indeed), that song contains poetry. It talks about life, about the passage of time, and how affects a person. "La marea" means "The Tide". Tide is a metaphor for life. The lived life. Suppose that life (or a part of one's life) is like a tide. And when tide goes out, you observe what effects (both positive and negative) has caused on you. So, that's what this band has expressed through marine metaphors. For example: how would you refer to the good things you've lived, and which you want to remember forever? These boys have done it this amazingly poetic way:

"The tide left me silver sands
which I'll put into the hourglass of the still time
."


(whole translation here)

I mean certain things cannot be known by only listening to the music. You need some extra information on lyrics.

Finally, do you dare to interpret these two directly?:

YouTube - LA HABITACION ROJA - Scandinavia
Olaf el vikingo los nikis - goear.com

(just kidding )
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Old 11-04-2009, 01:37 PM   #10 (permalink)
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All the time! I think it's really interesting tbh. I used to listen to Rammstein.. well I still do along with Peter Heppner, Ruoska, and Furia. Since I usually listen to electronic music that doesn't normally have lyrics it doesn't bother me that I don't understand them.
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