The Official "Music Was So Much Better in the Glorious Days of Yore" Thread

[Mucha na Dziko]

Originally Posted by jadis

The "enhances the experience" bit was funny cause that's what every condom product description says.

Yeah, ok, now I get it. It’s the same in polish actually. Weird I didn’t notice that.
But good you did
This way I won’t use it again, unless intentionally that is.

Originally Posted by jadis

It's way more fun to agree about liking Beefheart and hating Rolling Stone's great album lists than it is to argue about definitions, genres, canons etc. I say we stick to the former.

****.
And here I was readying myself for the next round

Originally Posted by jadis

I don't share your confidence in the usefulness of applying certain words to certain things.

Well, you know, if words aren’t useful in communicating certain things, then what are we left with?

[elphenor]

Originally Posted by Mucha na Dziko

(„Vital” - means „full of life/energetic”?)

yeah, ya know...it rocks

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by Mucha na Dziko

Well, you know, if words aren’t useful in communicating certain things, then what are we left with?

[Mucha na Dziko]

Originally Posted by elphenor

yeah, ya know...it rocks

Well, I’m not Talking about the total of Beach Boys catalogue, but during the Brian Wilson glory days, the music was never supposed to „rock” or anything.

It’s supposed to call out to these deep emotions, you never even thought you had, thanks to Brian’s falsetto, weird cadences and ambigous lyrics. Like, to being you closer to his troubled mind really.

Not sure though doesn’t it happen only if you feel a strong connection to Brian as a person (well, in the 60s it didn’t - hence the popularity, and the „Brian Wilson is a genius” slogan).


Though I know I will get bashed beacuse of it again, I just say it, because I truly believe that (yes, at least in half because of my emotional response to his music) yes indeed Brian Wilson is a genius, and his work should be compared rather to classical composers or jazzmen, than to popular music musicians.




But then I do agree that what you’ve linked is way more vital than anything out of the Beach Boys catalogue.

[Mucha na Dziko]

Originally Posted by the batlord

true

[elphenor]

Originally Posted by Mucha na Dziko

Well, I’m not Talking about the total of Beach Boys catalogue, but during the Brian Wilson glory days, the music was never supposed to „rock” or anything.

It’s supposed to call out to these deep emotions, you never even thought you had, thanks to Brian’s falsetto, weird cadences and ambigous lyrics. Like, to being you closer to his troubled mind really.

Not sure though doesn’t it happen only if you feel a strong connection to Brian as a person (well, in the 60s it didn’t - hence the popularity, and the „Brian Wilson is a genius” slogan).


Though I know I will get bashed beacuse of it again, I just say it, because I truly believe that (yes, at least in half because of my emotional response to his music) yes indeed Brian Wilson is a genius, and his work should be compared rather to classical composers or jazzmen, than to popular music musicians.




But then I do agree that what you’ve linked is way more vital than anything out of the Beach Boys catalogue.

Brian Wilson is one of the most celebrated artists of all time

other fans just aren't as insecure when admitting to liking a pop artist

[elphenor]

I would argue Velvet Underground wrote simpler songs that are in execution more complex because of Cale's Viola and Reed's very forward thinking approach to guitar

just as another example where trying to gauge musical complexity is pretty unintuitive

[Mucha na Dziko]

Originally Posted by elphenor

I would argue Velvet Underground wrote simpler songs that are in execution more complex because of Cale's Viola and Reed's very forward thinking approach to guitar

just as another example where trying to gauge musical complexity is pretty unintuitive

I wouldn’t call Wilson „pop” per se

I truly think he is a great „composer” of sorts. Or really of any sorts.

The best Beach Boys songs aren’t played by Beach Boys themselves. But by session musicians (like the „Wrecking Crew”), but with written partitures by Brian
With the Beach Boys (that including Brian) doing the vocals and the harmonies.


I do get your other point (the one about intuition when it comes to complexity), but what it comes down to in this case truly is what one is searching in music

[SlyStone63]

I feel like those who try to defend modern music and claim "it's still amazing bro, just like it was between the 60s-80s" are trolling, there's no way today's music of even music between the 90s-00s are amazing era's.

Whenever people are saying the same thing, there's actually truth to this.

[The Batlord]

Maybe you're just too lazy to find new music.