The 49 Worst Artists in Music History

boo boo · 03-12-2010, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by tore

^I think you are wrong about it generally being a list of artists and musicians in it for the money. But ..

This is an interesting question

I like to think all popular bands and artists have some sort of appeal - which explains their popularity. Whether you like them or not depends on whether or not you are able to tap into that appeal.

I actually like a lot of music that perhaps didn't appeal very much on the first listen. It took a bit more before I was able to really see what the appeal was. Since ELP is on this list, their 1971 album Tarkus is a perfect example. The 20 minutes long title track's attraction is not as immediate as that of most popular music, but if you can tap into it, you might end up loving it.

Tarkus is a better piece of music than anything that ever came out of the punk rock movement, and I like punk.

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam

And that is why I think overindulgent crap like ELP and Asia deserve the top spots far more than the next one-hit-wonder who manages to make the top 40.

You still haven't answered my question on what overindulgent crap even is and why Trout Mask Replica doesn't qualify.

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I know those bands suck, but it's out of mediocrity, not misdirected talent.

So, even if a band is incredibly talented, just because they make music that isn't consistant with your particular brand of taste makes them the second worst band of all time?

Yeah, that is just stupid on so many levels. Even Yngwie Malmsteen, I don't dig his music too much, but to call him one of the worst musicians of all time when he's a hero to many talented musicians is just absolutely juvenile and offensive to me.

As for Asia, like I said earlier I'm not really a fan, they make watered down arena rock that isn't consistant with what I know they are capable of or the super proggy Roger Dean art. But that doesn't change the fact that they are all incredibly talented individuals who have produced brilliant music with three of the greatest bands ever (including one that is very high on this list), they are more talented instrumentalists than most people will ever be and most of the bands I actually do like, so for that I give them respect.

It's funny that you call them overindulgent though, because I think they are waaaaaaaaaaaay too restrained. It's as if they all have electric shock collars that go off whenever they do something that is too out there or too complex for mainstream appeal and these are musicians who are at their best when doing exactly that. For album covers that are so surreal and alien looking, the actual music is pretty standard pop stuff.

Still, I admire every single member of this band, even though I don't like the direction they took with Asia, a lot of people do and they still have a loyal following, so what the hell do I know? And Cartman likes them which is good enough for me.

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There might be some glaring flaws with this list, but the prevailing bitch that lists like these are bad because "band X deserves to be on this list more than band Y" is as unimaginative as it is dull-witted. Do you really believe that everybody hates the same fifty artists, or that a list like that would make for a good conversation? I don't agree with a lot of the artists on this list, it doesn't make my opinion any more "right" than anyone else's and it surely doesn't justify me bitching about how bad it is.

Oh yeah, and you're telling me that YOU have never ranted about someone's subjective musical opinions before? This website is called music banter for a reason, that is what we do, and you're more guilty of it than most.

lucifer_sam · 03-12-2010, 10:20 AM

Sigh...

That is why they suck.

boo boo · 03-12-2010, 11:17 AM

For one, Carl Palmer can do whatever the f*ck he wants, maybe he's arrogant, but hey, if I was one of the best drummers in the world I would be too. I don't care if prog musicians are arrogant, they deserve to be. Compare that to all the arrogant dipsh*ts who aren't even talented: Nicky Wire, Brandon Flowers, Conor Oberst, the Gallagher brothers, way too many punk musicians to count.

I Believe in Father Christmas isn't even an ELP song. And do you realise how many bands you are discrediting by saying that not under any circumstances is a band credible if a member has a really sh*tty solo career?

If you think a good musician can NEVER write a sh*tty song or two, then again, I have to point out your blatant inconsistency by reminding everyone that your favorite artist has written stuff like this.

How can you possibly defend stuff like this?

I really think Trout Mask Replica is overrated as all hell, it has some terrific songs but it's really hard to call it a musical masterpiece when a third of the tracks is the worst f*cking music possibly conceivable by human beings. I mean, is there really a worse song out there than Hobo Chang Ba?

No, there isn't.

Guybrush · 03-12-2010, 04:23 PM

I have to agree with Boo here. I can't really see how those youtube vids prove ELP is a crap band. Carl Palmer playing drums for Asia in 2008 and a vid from Lake's holiday single? None of those are even ELP.

In a word, sigh.

Furthermore, a lot of great bands from the early 70s turned to **** towards the end of the decade and into the 80s. Doesn't just go for that time period either, all bands have an expiry date. Similar to what Boo mentioned, if you're gonna write off every artist/band who made a bad song or did something unlikeable in a long career, you're gonna have to write off a lot of great music.

boo boo · 03-13-2010, 04:51 PM

100 Greatest American Albums of All Time - 1 of 100 - Blender

Yet another testament to the rancidness of this magazine.

It doesn't surprise me much that the people who think prog rock is one of the worst things to ever happen to music would add albums by Kid Rock and TLC.

KISS and Eminem in the top 50? Aerosmith in the top 30? HOLE? Not even one album by The Beatles?

Suck MY balls. Oh and great consistency guys, according to you the 37th worst band of all time made the 97th best album of all time.

And good god, just take a f*cking look at the top ten, I'm totally speechless.

Proof that not all opinions are created equal.

lucifer_sam · 03-13-2010, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

100 Greatest American Albums of All Time - 1 of 100 - Blender

Yet another testament to the rancidness of this magazine.

It doesn't surprise me much that the people who think prog rock is one of the worst things to ever happen to music would add albums by Kid Rock and TLC.

KISS and Eminem in the top 50? Aerosmith in the top 30? HOLE? Not even one album by The Beatles?

Suck MY balls. Oh and great consistency guys, according to you the 37th worst band of all time made the 97th best album of all time.

And good god, just take a f*cking look at the top ten, I'm totally speechless.

Proof that not all opinions are created equal.

Pretty sure there's good reason for that. Although there was a Neil Young album on there somewhere...

I did chuckle upon seeing what number one was. What were they thinking?

Unrelenting · 03-13-2010, 05:08 PM

frankly i cant trust people who dislike primus

gunnels · 03-13-2010, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

I mean, is there really a worse song out there than Hobo Chang Ba?

Hey, you asked...

littleknowitall · 03-13-2010, 05:57 PM

i don't think Jamiroquai deserved to be in there, there's some great session work that goes into it. Especially the bass, some crackin' lines. However it can only ever be subjective with this sort of thing. I can think of many worse artists for the list in my opinion but I still think it's pretty good for what it is.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 03-13-2010, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

KISS and Eminem in the top 50? Aerosmith in the top 30? HOLE? Not even one album by The Beatles?

Probably because they're English

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littleknowitall Pow! Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,671	i don't think Jamiroquai deserved to be in there, there's some great session work that goes into it. Especially the bass, some crackin' lines. However it can only ever be subjective with this sort of thing. I can think of many worse artists for the list in my opinion but I still think it's pretty good for what it is.