Nirvana ruined rock music. Who agrees?

TheCunningStunt · 04-25-2010, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by captured

Wtf. No offence but that is the stupidest thing I've ever heard anyone say. Firstly, Nirvana didn't just pop up out of nowhere to ruin rock music. Secondly, if you listened to most of the lyrics in their songs they don't sing about self pity - that's like emo or hardcore music ..... or something and thirdly, Kurt Cobain - and the whole band for that matter had a hell of a lot of talent.

Jeeeesus christ.

It's okay to eat fish because they don't have any feelings.

captured · 04-25-2010, 02:43 AM

That's self pity?

And okay whatever, Something In The Way was an exception....

TheCunningStunt · 04-25-2010, 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by captured

That's self pity?

And okay whatever, Something In The Way was an exception....

Nope, any excuse to mention it.
It amuses me that lyric.
I think there's an element of self pity in the their songs, but what's wrong with that? Mostly it's about drugs, alienation, the real, the surreal, apathy. Self pity is just a fraction of what Nirvana were about. Their song lyrics don't have set pattern IMO.

Viper2 · 04-25-2010, 02:54 AM

Nirvana and all the other grunge bands were nothing but a bunch of kids who barely knew how to play their instruments. They sounded like very amateurish garage bands.

On the other hand, bands like AC/DC, Van Halen, and Def Leppard were absolute experts at their instruments. Plus they were older and had much more musical experience. They were true serious musicians, not just a bunch of garage band kids like the grunge bands.

There is just no comparison. I think the only reason Nirvana and other grunge bands became popular is because teenage kids liked the depressing whiny no-talent music. It was just a stupid fad that kids liked back then, but unfortunately that stupid fad ended up ruining rock music.

P A N · 04-25-2010, 02:54 AM

i don't think nirvana were all about self pity. sure, there was some of that, but not enough to warrant the notion that it consumed their output to the point where they were offering no critique on the social state of the world.

i just always thought they were kinda pretty negative and a bit boring. doesn't mean they sucked though. just not my thing.

P A N · 04-25-2010, 02:56 AM

i also think that "rock music" had a stiff ruining coming anyway.

captured · 04-25-2010, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt

Nope, any excuse to mention it.
It amuses me that lyric.
I think there's an element of self pity in the their songs, but what's wrong with that? Mostly it's about drugs, alienation, the real, the surreal, apathy. Self pity is just a fraction of what Nirvana were about. Their song lyrics don't have set pattern IMO.

Lol, fair enough I guess,
And I would have to aagree with that.
And I don't know if Kurt just has a weird way of pronouncing words or if my ears are retarded but in Bleach, half the time it seems like he's just saying random **** so it fits into the song.
Either way, sounds good.

RVCA · 04-25-2010, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Viper2

There is just no comparison. I think the only reason Nirvana and other grunge bands became popular is because teenage kids liked the depressing whiny no-talent music. It was just a stupid fad that kids liked back then, but unfortunately that stupid fad ended up ruining rock music.

Oh yeah? Well ACDC did nothing but rip off Led Zeppelin, except ACDC lyrics are sh*te.

gunnels · 04-25-2010, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Viper2

There is just no comparison. I think the only reason Nirvana and other grunge bands became popular is because teenage kids liked the depressing whiny no-talent music. It was just a stupid fad that kids liked back then, but unfortunately that stupid fad ended up ruining rock music.

Hair bands were part of a pretty dumb fad too, so it's pretty interesting that you are using them for comparisons.

captured · 04-25-2010, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Viper2

Nirvana and all the other grunge bands were nothing but a bunch of kids who barely knew how to play their instruments. They sounded like very amateurish garage bands.

On the other hand, bands like AC/DC, Van Halen, and Def Leppard were absolute experts at their instruments. Plus they were older and had much more musical experience. They were true serious musicians, not just a bunch of garage band kids like the grunge bands.

There is just no comparison. I think the only reason Nirvana and other grunge bands became popular is because teenage kids liked the depressing whiny no-talent music. It was just a stupid fad that kids liked back then, but unfortunately that stupid fad ended up ruining rock music.

So... what you're saying is we all have to be 50+ and extremely serious :| to be considered good music? Last time I checked age didn't matter and it was about having fun and making beautiful sounds with your instrument.

-Sorry, bout the double posting

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Viper2 Groupie Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 2	Nirvana and all the other grunge bands were nothing but a bunch of kids who barely knew how to play their instruments. They sounded like very amateurish garage bands. On the other hand, bands like AC/DC, Van Halen, and Def Leppard were absolute experts at their instruments. Plus they were older and had much more musical experience. They were true serious musicians, not just a bunch of garage band kids like the grunge bands. There is just no comparison. I think the only reason Nirvana and other grunge bands became popular is because teenage kids liked the depressing whiny no-talent music. It was just a stupid fad that kids liked back then, but unfortunately that stupid fad ended up ruining rock music.

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P A N DO LIKE YOU. Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 629	i don't think nirvana were all about self pity. sure, there was some of that, but not enough to warrant the notion that it consumed their output to the point where they were offering no critique on the social state of the world. i just always thought they were kinda pretty negative and a bit boring. doesn't mean they sucked though. just not my thing.

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P A N DO LIKE YOU. Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 629	i also think that "rock music" had a stiff ruining coming anyway.