What do you think about talent shows?

veraIT · 07-31-2010, 10:21 AM

I would like to mention talent shows. here in Italy many young singers trying to get in these "schools" and few can really make career. There are winners and losers, but soon almost everyone can be part of the discography. there are some who suffered in the fall thanks to radio and other journalists, because personality is too strong or too high capacity, are snubbed because provenenti television. In your opinion is not a contradiction? ultimately both chose the way of talent.

I'd know, in your country, are seen as the talent, what are the latest talent left, and if you have never seen an Italian.

I will soon let you know the latest Italian talents and tell me your ...

thanks for your attention

mr dave · 07-31-2010, 10:30 AM

are you talking about talent shows like American Idol and Eurovision?

veraIT · 07-31-2010, 10:38 AM

sure...in ITALY the rtalent shows are: xfactor and Amici, the last a sort of school in that the young people live for 6 mounths...

**Janszoon** · 07-31-2010, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by mr dave

are you talking about talent shows like American Idol and Eurovision?

Haha, when I read the OP I was totally thinking he was talking about high school talent shows or something.

The Bullet · 07-31-2010, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Haha, when I read the OP I was totally thinking he was talking about high school talent shows or something.

I did too.

Now, @VeraIT,

unfortunatley, most of these talent shows are scripted, and don't really try to bring out true talent as much as money. Occasionally, an actual talented person will be brought up by these star-search type things, but not usually. Anyways, I don't watch them. Sometimes I look up the really bad people on American Idol for laughs COUGHwilliamhungCOUGH.

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra · 07-31-2010, 02:46 PM

High School Talent shows - good thing, helps growing minds find their niche, and get instant feedback. Many of which are deciding a path for the future.

TV talent shows - Garbage. Does nothing but hurt music since it focuses entirely on expressing people with a singular talent(singing) duplicating unoriginal formulas. Which, in turn, results in boring artists, who couldn't make it without the help of a TV show, producing bad CDs that outsell the people actually honing their craft and moving music into a positive direction.

veraIT · 08-01-2010, 11:29 AM

I didn't know that in america there is the high school talent shows, what is it?

skali thnks for your opinion

**Janszoon** · 08-01-2010, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by veraIT

I didn't know that in america there is the high school talent shows, what is it?

It's just students performing on stage for the rest of the school. Generally they're either dancing, playing an instrument or singing, but it can really be any kind of performance they want. Each kid or group of kids gets a few minutes to perform then the next act comes on. There aren't usually any judges or anything, it's just for fun. Surely there's something similar in Italy?

Zaqarbal · 08-01-2010, 01:02 PM

I don't watch that kind of programs. Here we have the local version of Operazione Trionfo. You know, that show presented by a mediocre Italo-Spanish singer and actor.

In both countries the program is broadcast by TV stations owned by Berlusconi. I think that's a reason enough to dismiss any probable trace of honesty, fair play and artistic criterion.

All I know is that winners of OT usually have a limited talent. On the contrary, some good musicians haven't had any significant success in the show. Some years ago Mai Meneses, member of duo Nena Daconte (of which I talked here) was the first contestant to be voted off. Besides, later on their first record was the 3rd best selling album of the year. That says it all.

Celtic Peach · 08-01-2010, 07:26 PM

They are Good and they are Bad!!! There are plenty of positives and negatives

07-31-2010, 10:21 AM	#1 (permalink)
veraIT Groupie Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: ROME Posts: 10	What do you think about talent shows? I would like to mention talent shows. here in Italy many young singers trying to get in these "schools" and few can really make career. There are winners and losers, but soon almost everyone can be part of the discography. there are some who suffered in the fall thanks to radio and other journalists, because personality is too strong or too high capacity, are snubbed because provenenti television. In your opinion is not a contradiction? ultimately both chose the way of talent. I'd know, in your country, are seen as the talent, what are the latest talent left, and if you have never seen an Italian. I will soon let you know the latest Italian talents and tell me your ... thanks for your attention

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Zaqarbal Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Spain Posts: 824	I don't watch that kind of programs. Here we have the local version of Operazione Trionfo. You know, that show presented by a mediocre Italo-Spanish singer and actor. In both countries the program is broadcast by TV stations owned by Berlusconi. I think that's a reason enough to dismiss any probable trace of honesty, fair play and artistic criterion. All I know is that winners of OT usually have a limited talent. On the contrary, some good musicians haven't had any significant success in the show. Some years ago Mai Meneses, member of duo Nena Daconte (of which I talked here) was the first contestant to be voted off. Besides, later on their first record was the 3rd best selling album of the year. That says it all. __________________ "Lullabies for adults / crossed by the years / carry the flower of disappointment / tattooed in their gloomy melodies."

07-31-2010, 10:38 AM	#3 (permalink)
veraIT Groupie Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: ROME Posts: 10	sure...in ITALY the rtalent shows are: xfactor and Amici, the last a sort of school in that the young people live for 6 mounths...

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Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra \/ GOD Join Date: May 2010 Location: Nowhere... Posts: 2,179	High School Talent shows - good thing, helps growing minds find their niche, and get instant feedback. Many of which are deciding a path for the future. TV talent shows - Garbage. Does nothing but hurt music since it focuses entirely on expressing people with a singular talent(singing) duplicating unoriginal formulas. Which, in turn, results in boring artists, who couldn't make it without the help of a TV show, producing bad CDs that outsell the people actually honing their craft and moving music into a positive direction.

08-01-2010, 11:29 AM	#7 (permalink)
veraIT Groupie Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: ROME Posts: 10	I didn't know that in america there is the high school talent shows, what is it? skali thnks for your opinion

08-01-2010, 07:26 PM	#10 (permalink)
Celtic Peach Groupie Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 4	They are Good and they are Bad!!! There are plenty of positives and negatives