The White Stripes

Urban Hat€monger ? · 02-03-2011, 05:15 PM

Best time for them to go IMO.

They were clearly on a downward trend, they saw that and didn't think there was much more mileage in the project and called it a day.

Shame more bands as successful as them don't do that.

Sneer · 02-03-2011, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Skaligojurah

I have like a post count of 700 in the span of 3 months. I don't know how you'd miss my presence. I'm a part of an album club, and running another. To insinuate I'm a troll is not only out of line, but completely ignorant. Besides, my topic wasn't trolling at all.

It was simply stating my opinion that I felt Elephant wasn't that good of an album, and that the White Stripes breaking up wasn't heartbreaking because they are years since starting to run low on gas. How this would get a rise out of anybody, I don't know. It's obvious that I wasn't trying to bash Jack White to get a reaction, as I supply both compliments, and criticisms.

Elephant just feels flat, and generic. Maybe that's why it was such a breakout but it never felt very lively. White Blood Cells was very clever in the way it was put together, and recorded. It had a very different vibe. Elephant was just generic bluesy rock, and not particularly good generic bluesy rock. Seven Nation Army is a decent song, but once you realize it's basically the same riff for 20 minutes, albeit it's a good riff, it loses it's appeal.

Big3 is a fanboy. He refuses to accept the obvious

TheBig3 · 02-03-2011, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Skaligojurah

I have like a post count of 700 in the span of 3 months. I don't know how you'd miss my presence. I'm a part of an album club, and running another. To insinuate I'm a troll is not only out of line, but completely ignorant. Besides, my topic wasn't trolling at all.

It was simply stating my opinion that I felt Elephant wasn't that good of an album, and that the White Stripes breaking up wasn't heartbreaking because they are years since starting to run low on gas. How this would get a rise out of anybody, I don't know. It's obvious that I wasn't trying to bash Jack White to get a reaction, as I supply both compliments, and criticisms.

Elephant just feels flat, and generic. Maybe that's why it was such a breakout but it never felt very lively. White Blood Cells was very clever in the way it was put together, and recorded. It had a very different vibe. Elephant was just generic bluesy rock, and not particularly good generic bluesy rock. Seven Nation Army is a decent song, but once you realize it's basically the same riff for 20 minutes, albeit it's a good riff, it loses it's appeal.

I know that on music sites, the line between Hipster and Troll is thinner than a 13 year-olds mustache but you've got some major balls taking offense to being called a Troll and making a statement like the one I've bolded.

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Originally Posted by Stu

Big3 is a fanboy. He refuses to accept the obvious

Call me what you will, but you've said the first album was "gold." Not even this fanboi will go that far.

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra · 02-03-2011, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3

I know that on music sites, the line between Hipster and Troll is thinner than a 13 year-olds mustache but you've got some major balls taking offense to being called a Troll and making a statement like the one I've bolded.

I'm not a hipster either. I'm not sure why you've taken such offense to my posts. Elephant is an uninteresting album. I don't hate it because it's popular. I hate it because it's boring. If that was the case, I'd hate the White Stripes as a whole.

If anything, you're being the troll. There's no reason to rip into somebody for disliking an album you like.

TheBig3 · 02-03-2011, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Skaligojurah

I'm not a hipster either. I'm not sure why you've taken such offense to my posts. Elephant is an uninteresting album. I don't hate it because it's popular. I hate it because it's boring. If that was the case, I'd hate the White Stripes as a whole.

If anything, you're being the troll. There's no reason to rip into somebody for disliking an album you like.

Yeah, the thing is, thats not what I did. You said "this album is boring and generic, I guess thats why its a big seller." You said that when I asked why you didn't like Elephant. Its fine to have that opinion, but if you can't see how that doesn't sound like a giant troll line, I don't know what I can do for you.

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra · 02-03-2011, 08:58 PM

Eh, there's nothing wrong with being realistically jaded. White Stripes broke out with one album which was very lofi, and came together nicely by it's very intentional lack of clarity. The next album they have a massive hit, and focus on putting out something a little more clear, and digestible helped them capture what they didn't with the last.

Albeit, their sound was always focused on being catchy and direct, one could still argue that a large portion of that album's success comes from Jack White watering it down a tad, and presenting it with more clarity. Not saying it was even intentional, just saying. It bothers me because the album feels it has culled away alot of the free spirited traits of the albums before it, and feels kind of heartless in comparison.

~~yoshiman~~ · 02-05-2011, 02:08 AM

The only song of their I like is "seven nation army," Otherwise they are ok.

TockTockTock · 02-05-2011, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3

Yeah, the thing is, thats not what I did. You said "this album is boring and generic, I guess thats why its a big seller." You said that when I asked why you didn't like Elephant. Its fine to have that opinion, but if you can't see how that doesn't sound like a giant troll line, I don't know what I can do for you.

Doesn't sound like a troll comment to me. I see people attack the Velvet Underground (my favorite band) all the time, and do I think they're trolling? Not really. Hell, Skaliojurah actually complemented them. Trolls don't do that. By the way, Skaliojurah is NOT a troll, and anyone who has spoken to him knows that.

Needless to say though, I disagree with him about Elephant being a boring album. I think it was decent and had great guitar work. I love every some on it.

~~James~~ · 02-05-2011, 01:24 PM

I am sad with De Stijl's position in this poll.

Husky McDump · 02-05-2011, 02:31 PM

i <3 opinion fightz

View Poll Results: What is your favorite of The White Stripes' CDs?
The White Stripes.	13	10.66%
De Stijl	9	7.38%
White Blood Cells	38	31.15%
Elephant	41	33.61%
Get Behind Me Satan	8	6.56%
Icky Thump	13	10.66%
Voters: 122. You may not vote on this poll

02-03-2011, 05:15 PM	#551 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	Best time for them to go IMO. They were clearly on a downward trend, they saw that and didn't think there was much more mileage in the project and called it a day. Shame more bands as successful as them don't do that. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

02-05-2011, 02:31 PM	#560 (permalink)
Husky McDump No Shirt Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 442	i <3 opinion fightz __________________ not everyone can make it to the pros, some rise to the top, others down low.

02-05-2011, 02:08 AM	#557 (permalink)
~~yoshiman~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 16	The only song of their I like is "seven nation army," Otherwise they are ok.

02-05-2011, 01:24 PM	#559 (permalink)
~~James~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Scotland Posts: 4,483	I am sad with De Stijl's position in this poll.