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View Poll Results: which of the following influential bands inspired the most crap or copycats?
Nirvana 20 44.44%
Iron Maiden 7 15.56%
Sex Pistols 3 6.67%
Jethro Tull 1 2.22%
Radiohead 3 6.67%
Velvet Underground 1 2.22%
Other 10 22.22%
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Old 09-01-2010, 03:16 AM   #91 (permalink)
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Grindcore really doesn't belong in that list. It (a) predates Metallica's debut album and (b) can be really, really good.
that's a pretty iffy statement
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Old 09-01-2010, 03:39 AM   #92 (permalink)
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I meant in general and I don`t see their 80`s material as being much worse than their 70`s material! In the 70`s their very early stuff like Strutter showed they could put out some good songs and "Destroyer" as an album was the best thing they ever did.
ok well you're entitled to your opinion with the 80s Kiss thing I guess. I like "God of Thunder" and "Detroit Rock City" and they're both from Destroyer (those two songs and "Love Gun" are the only Kiss songs I like) so I'd have to agree Destroyer is their best album. Still, I think Kiss really sucks. Their lyrics are often even stupider than most hair metal ones.

that's the last thing I'll say in this thread because I think I got it too off-topic.
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Old 09-01-2010, 05:09 AM   #93 (permalink)
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ok well you're entitled to your opinion with the 80s Kiss thing I guess. I like "God of Thunder" and "Detroit Rock City" and they're both from Destroyer (those two songs and "Love Gun" are the only Kiss songs I like) so I'd have to agree Destroyer is their best album. Still, I think Kiss really sucks. Their lyrics are often even stupider than most hair metal ones.

that's the last thing I'll say in this thread because I think I got it too off-topic.
Given that we`re talking about Kiss, they`re very relevant given the amount out of terrible bands they`ve helped influence.
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that's a pretty iffy statement
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Old 09-01-2010, 10:32 AM   #95 (permalink)
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Given that we`re talking about Kiss, they`re very relevant given the amount out of terrible bands they`ve helped influence.
Okay yeah that's true. They were huge in the 70s and 80s and are still rolling in the big bucks, yet the vast majority of their songs have been absolute crap with the most generic and shallow lyrics imaginable, and this sends a bad message to all bands. I like some of the ones that took it to heart but still, it's not a good thing.
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Old 09-12-2010, 11:33 PM   #96 (permalink)
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What band can we blame 80s hair metal on?
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What band can we blame 80s hair metal on?
Always thought it was Van Halen.
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What band can we blame 80s hair metal on?
I think I mentioned this somewhere above on the thread and groups like Aerosmith, Kiss, New York Dolls and Alice Cooper were highly influential on hair metal but I`d say that Van Halen and DEF Leppard were the direct culprits though.
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What band can we blame 80s hair metal on?
i always blamed these guys.



while they may not be full on cheesy hair rock, their followers... well... let's see...

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