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Old 06-27-2011, 07:47 AM   #131 (permalink)
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I can see an artist lip-syncing if it is because of a health problem concerning their vocals, sore throat, vocal chords, or whatever. But I believe they should also have the ability to perform the vocals live on stage as well, unlike Milli Vanilli who was a total rip off. I am sure there are a lot of instances artist must resort to lip syncing when faced with the option of canceling the show. As the old cliché states, "The Show Must Go On".
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Old 06-27-2011, 07:50 AM   #132 (permalink)
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Thats not what grand theft is. Legal fail.

The crime you're referencing is false advertising, misrepresenting a product, etc. Theft has nothing to do with it. Especially since theft is defined as, and I quote "The illegal taking of another person's property without that person's freely-given consent."

In this instance, consent is given. Even if the product is sold under false pretenses (Which it isn't, as I will explain in a moment), it is impossible for theft to have occured.

Besides which, even without singing, the presence of a performer, on a stage, qualifies a lip synced concert as a 'performance'.

From Wikipedia: "A performance, in performing arts, generally comprises an event in which a performer or group of performers behave in a particular way for another group of people, the audience."

In this instance, the particular way the performer behaves is assumed to involve, but is not legally BOUND, to involve singing. If a concert is lip synced however, an artist is quite capable of demonstrating performance capability by dancing, gesturing, or simply working a crowd between songs. There is nothing misleading about a live performance that contains no singing or live instruments playing, if the artist defines performance via another creative expression. As such, there is nothing illegal about lip syncing.



TL;DR - You suck at interpreting the law.

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Old 06-27-2011, 07:52 AM   #133 (permalink)
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I can see an artist lip-syncing if it is because of a health problem concerning their vocals, sore throat, vocal chords, or whatever. But I believe they should also have the ability to perform the vocals live on stage as well, unlike Milli Vanilli who was a total rip off. I am sure there are a lot of instances artist must resort to lip syncing when faced with the option of canceling the show. As the old cliché states, "The Show Must Go On".
I'm hazy on this, but I believe the issue with Milli Vanilli *was* illegal, but not because of live lip syncing, it was illegal because they never sang the ORIGINAL vocals. The performer in question who DID was uncredited and the public were never informed of that fact, meaning the CD itself and its liner notes were illegal. I'm not sure the exact crime category that falls under.

However that illegality didn't extend to live performances as the performer in that instance WAS the person it was advertised to be, regardless of their lip syncing.
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Old 06-27-2011, 08:00 AM   #134 (permalink)
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I'm hazy on this, but I believe the issue with Milli Vanilli *was* illegal, but not because of live lip syncing, it was illegal because they never sang the ORIGINAL vocals. The performer in question who DID was uncredited and the public were never informed of that fact, meaning the CD itself and its liner notes were illegal. I'm not sure the exact crime category that falls under.

However that illegality didn't extend to live performances as the performer in that instance WAS the person it was advertised to be, regardless of their lip syncing.
Yes.. That would be common knowledge to most music enthusiast I would think.
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Old 06-27-2011, 08:04 AM   #135 (permalink)
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Yes.. That would be common knowledge to most music enthusiast I would think.
More than likely, I just wanted to be clear on it in case Jedey misinterpreted your statement as support for his assertion.
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Old 06-27-2011, 08:09 AM   #136 (permalink)
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I'm hazy on this, but I believe the issue with Milli Vanilli *was* illegal, but not because of live lip syncing, it was illegal because they never sang the ORIGINAL vocals. The performer in question who DID was uncredited and the public were never informed of that fact, meaning the CD itself and its liner notes were illegal. I'm not sure the exact crime category that falls under.

However that illegality didn't extend to live performances as the performer in that instance WAS the person it was advertised to be, regardless of their lip syncing.
then after that, the "real" Milli Vanilli came out, but by then, people were no longer interested in them
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Old 06-27-2011, 08:14 AM   #137 (permalink)
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then after that, the "real" Milli Vanilli came out, but by then, people were no longer interested in them
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Old 06-27-2011, 08:18 AM   #138 (permalink)
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bite your tongue , Sir.

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i don't listen to them much

i do dig Redd Kross, though
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Old 06-27-2011, 12:31 PM   #140 (permalink)
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Chapman.
Not strictly a crime against music though...unless he released a record?
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