...and the most significant and infuential album ever made is...

Flyingpig437 · 06-30-2011, 01:01 PM

Someone's posted on The Stone Roses album thread that it's the most significant and infuential album ever made. Someone else said this was laffable. I don't think it's laffable. Maybe it's not diverse enough and came too late in rock history compared to Sgt.Pepper or Hendrix or Dark side of the moon and all the rest.

I think that it's beyond dispute Sgt.Pepper is the most significant and infuential album ever made but that doesn't mean it's the greatest and I think we have to ask questions about an album with WI64 on it as thegreatest album ever made.
Is there a difference between an album being the greatest and being the most significant and influential?
What's everyone else think?

BastardofYoung · 06-30-2011, 01:12 PM

i think it is a pointless thing to discuss in the first place, to subjective.

~~[MERIT]~~ · 06-30-2011, 01:14 PM

The Beatles - "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band"

Pink Floyd - "The Dark Side Of The Moon"

Bob Dylan - "Highway 61 Revisited"

The Velvet Underground - "The Velvet Underground & Nico"

The Rolling Stones - "Exile On Main Street"

The Clash - "London Calling"

David Bowie - "The Rise And Fall Of Ziggy Stardust And The Spiders From Mars"

The Ramones - "The Ramones"

Michael Jackson - "Thriller"

Nirvana - "Nevermind"

The Doors - "The Doors"

starrynight · 06-30-2011, 01:50 PM

i think it is a pointless thing to discuss in the first place, too subjective. (2)

midnight rain · 06-30-2011, 02:11 PM

What's wrong with subjectivity? If it was objective then there would only be one answer to the thread, and no need for discussion...

BastardofYoung · 06-30-2011, 02:23 PM

nothing is wrong with it, there would just be no right answer. so what would be proven?

midnight rain · 06-30-2011, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BastardofYoung

nothing is wrong with it, there would just be no right answer. so what would be proven?

Nothing, and there'd be no right answer. Just like any other discussion on MB.

Captain Ron · 06-30-2011, 02:56 PM

how bout song? house of the rising sun by the animals convinced dylan to go electric, which changed music more than anything else

BastardofYoung · 06-30-2011, 03:14 PM

I wouldn't go that far. not "more than anything else".

Besides, if you go by songs and inspiration like that, you would have to say for example Woody Guthrie was more influential, cause he recorded a version of the song which influenced the Animals cover, Woody Guthrie influenced both in that regard (who was more of an influence on Dylan then that of The Animals). But then you would have to say the one who inspired Woody was more influential.. and repeat this to no end.

ThePhanastasio · 06-30-2011, 03:33 PM

The reason that all of this is so subjective, because an album which may have had a significant impact on a particular style of music may have ultimately been a minute factor (to say the least) within another style of music.

For example: The Stones' Exile On Main St. is a supremely important and influential album, as is The Talking Heads' Remain In Light, but for very different sorts of artists who are currently experiencing some manner of success.

Pop music would almost certainly draw more from an album like Michael Jackson's Thriller, or even a lot of David Bowie's The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders From Mars, or Aladdin Sane.

As such, it's going to be all the more subjective because people are going to tend to believe the more influential album to be the one that most influenced their own favorite music.

For what it's worth, I feel like Remain In Light was the most important and influential album as far as influencing the music I most enjoy, but I know that it wouldn't be as important from a hip-hop, heavy metal, or prog standpoint, although I still enjoy music from those genres massively.

06-30-2011, 01:01 PM	#1 (permalink)
Flyingpig437 Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 534	...and the most significant and infuential album ever made is... Someone's posted on The Stone Roses album thread that it's the most significant and infuential album ever made. Someone else said this was laffable. I don't think it's laffable. Maybe it's not diverse enough and came too late in rock history compared to Sgt.Pepper or Hendrix or Dark side of the moon and all the rest. I think that it's beyond dispute Sgt.Pepper is the most significant and infuential album ever made but that doesn't mean it's the greatest and I think we have to ask questions about an album with WI64 on it as thegreatest album ever made. Is there a difference between an album being the greatest and being the most significant and influential? What's everyone else think? __________________ Proper music for proper people!!!

06-30-2011, 01:12 PM	#2 (permalink)
BastardofYoung Buzz Killjoy Join Date: May 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 2,692	i think it is a pointless thing to discuss in the first place, to subjective. __________________ last.fm ‎"I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people." - Jack Handey.

06-30-2011, 01:50 PM	#4 (permalink)
starrynight Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 937	i think it is a pointless thing to discuss in the first place, too subjective. (2) __________________ non-cliquey member of every music forum I participate on

06-30-2011, 02:23 PM	#6 (permalink)
BastardofYoung Buzz Killjoy Join Date: May 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 2,692	nothing is wrong with it, there would just be no right answer. so what would be proven? __________________ last.fm ‎"I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people." - Jack Handey.

06-30-2011, 03:14 PM	#9 (permalink)
BastardofYoung Buzz Killjoy Join Date: May 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 2,692	I wouldn't go that far. not "more than anything else". Besides, if you go by songs and inspiration like that, you would have to say for example Woody Guthrie was more influential, cause he recorded a version of the song which influenced the Animals cover, Woody Guthrie influenced both in that regard (who was more of an influence on Dylan then that of The Animals). But then you would have to say the one who inspired Woody was more influential.. and repeat this to no end. __________________ last.fm ‎"I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people." - Jack Handey.

06-30-2011, 01:14 PM	#3 (permalink)
~~[MERIT]~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Missouri, USA Posts: 4,814	The Beatles - "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band" Pink Floyd - "The Dark Side Of The Moon" Bob Dylan - "Highway 61 Revisited" The Velvet Underground - "The Velvet Underground & Nico" The Rolling Stones - "Exile On Main Street" The Clash - "London Calling" David Bowie - "The Rise And Fall Of Ziggy Stardust And The Spiders From Mars" The Ramones - "The Ramones" Michael Jackson - "Thriller" Nirvana - "Nevermind" The Doors - "The Doors"

06-30-2011, 02:11 PM	#5 (permalink)
midnight rain Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,711	What's wrong with subjectivity? If it was objective then there would only be one answer to the thread, and no need for discussion...

06-30-2011, 02:56 PM	#8 (permalink)
Captain Ron Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: in a boat with your girlfriend Posts: 274	how bout song? house of the rising sun by the animals convinced dylan to go electric, which changed music more than anything else

06-30-2011, 03:33 PM	#10 (permalink)
ThePhanastasio Killed Laura Palmer Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Ashland, KY Posts: 1,679	The reason that all of this is so subjective, because an album which may have had a significant impact on a particular style of music may have ultimately been a minute factor (to say the least) within another style of music. For example: The Stones' Exile On Main St. is a supremely important and influential album, as is The Talking Heads' Remain In Light, but for very different sorts of artists who are currently experiencing some manner of success. Pop music would almost certainly draw more from an album like Michael Jackson's Thriller, or even a lot of David Bowie's The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders From Mars, or Aladdin Sane. As such, it's going to be all the more subjective because people are going to tend to believe the more influential album to be the one that most influenced their own favorite music. For what it's worth, I feel like Remain In Light was the most important and influential album as far as influencing the music I most enjoy, but I know that it wouldn't be as important from a hip-hop, heavy metal, or prog standpoint, although I still enjoy music from those genres massively. __________________ Phish: Studio Discography Reviewed 100 Albums I Heartily Recommend My last.fm It's a hand-me-down, the thoughts are broken Perhaps they're better left unsung