Amy Winehouse pronounced dead

duga · 07-25-2011, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by BastardofYoung

or maybe it was the crack and heroin... maybe.

I was diagnosed with bi-polar and have not been on medication in over a year, and I am just fine.

Maybe that is a small percentage of her problem, but not a significant one... at least not compared to the use of crack.

Congratulations on beating it, then. Other people don't have that luxury. I have seen two friends spiral out of control because of their bipolar disorders. You mean to tell me this still would have happened if she wasn't bipolar? Or at least took some meds?

right-track · 07-25-2011, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Dessalines

No, we lost a drunken drug addict and you need to come to terms with that. There will be no more of what you like because she was seriously undisciplined. When she took her last fix or drank herself into final insensibility, do you think she was in any way caring about what you might be missing? Uh, no.....

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Originally Posted by right-track

Never mind what you thought you knew about her as a person. Here she is as an artist. That's all that concerns me.
I'll leave the crass comments to others.

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right-track · 07-25-2011, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Dessalines

I disagree...

...In my opinion, the terrorist attack in Norway is of decidedly more importance than the self inflicted death of Ms. Winehouse and tells us so much more about human beings than her death ever could. However, I suspect that as a story, her death will get way more mainstream coverage than that attack. Is that how it should be? You decide.

And again you have failed to understand my post.
I wasn't the one comparing Winehouse to Norway.

What really disappoints me about this thread is the way some individuals have come in here and used it as a vehicle for their own self righteousness.
Why on earth people feel the need to express their distaste about the way someone dies is beyond me.
The death of any young individual is a tragedy regardless of it's implications.

I'd appreciate it if future posts in this thread concentrated more on the passing of a talented artist, as opposed to crass comparisons of events elsewhere.
And the merits of who and who shouldn't be mourned more.
Unfortunately, I doubt that'll happen judging by the lack of respect some of the current members display on here these days.

TheBig3 · 07-25-2011, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by right-track

And again you have failed to understand my post.
I wasn't the one comparing Winehouse to Norway.

What really disappoints me about this thread is the way some individuals have come in here and used it as a vehicle for their own self righteousness.
Why on earth people feel the need to express their distaste about the way someone dies is beyond me.
The death of any young individual is a tragedy regardless of it's implications.

I'd appreciate it if future posts in this thread concentrated more on the passing of a talented artist, as opposed to crass comparisons of events elsewhere.
And the merits of who and who shouldn't be mourned more.
Unfortunately, I doubt that'll happen judging by the lack of respect some of the current members display on here these days.

Because the forums overrun with erudite snobs who've spent too much time in school and have been conditioned, based on a meritocracy, to challenge things as a showing of knowledge.

In other words: "we've got a bunch of ****ing want-to-be smarty-pantses waving their dick around."

FRED HALE SR. · 07-25-2011, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3

Because the forums overrun with erudite snobs who've spent too much time in school and have been conditioned, based on a meritocracy, to challenge things as a showing of knowledge.

In other words: "we've got a bunch of ****ing want-to-be smarty-pantses waving their dick around."

Its a shame that people can no longer take the high road. I just wanted to say she was immensely talented vocally and for that i'll mourn her loss. She clearly was in the clutches of a huge drug addiction and its sad to see her go down that road so many have before. I really enjoyed her doo wop inspired voice it was a powerful instrument and she should be remembered for it. R.I.P. Amy.

TheBig3 · 07-25-2011, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR.

Its a shame that people can no longer take the high road. I just wanted to say she was immensely talented vocally and for that i'll mourn her loss. She clearly was in the clutches of a huge drug addiction and its sad to see her go down that road so many have before. I really enjoyed her doo wop inspired voice it was a powerful instrument and she should be remembered for it. R.I.P. Amy.

I'm with you, friend. I'm with you.

BastardofYoung · 07-25-2011, 12:13 PM

ahhh, here we go again with the people who i wanna punch in the mouth, the people who think that people are bad for giving more attention to Amy WInehouse than the victims in Norway.

Of course people will feel more of a connection to Amy Winehouse here than they will the victims of the Olso bombings/camp shooting. While one may sympathise with live lost in Norway, they will not feel the same connection to them personally or on an emotional level because they did not know them, they are just strangers to them... the people who will care more are family and friends, they will offer genuine support and it will be a story there. But here, Amy was somebody who many knew through her art, she was somebody people connected to in one way or another and through her art and music we knew her more than we did the people in Norway.

I feel sympathy for lives lost either way, I am not saying people can not feel bad for the people who died in Norway, that is fine. But to say one is more important is to have yer own head up yer ass and talk out of it as well.

Mainstream media will cover it more here because there is more of a connection in the mainstream media. If you want mainstream coverage of the people in Norway, move to Norway.

BastardofYoung · 07-25-2011, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by duga

Congratulations on beating it, then. Other people don't have that luxury. I have seen two friends spiral out of control because of their bipolar disorders. You mean to tell me this still would have happened if she wasn't bipolar? Or at least took some meds?

Well, if you have a mental illness like say Schizophrenia, and you take 10 hits of acid... is this not going to have more of an impact on your illness?

Bi-Polar is one thing, and can be controlled with the medications... which she was not taking. Sure that plays a part in where she was and why she was a trainwreck in some cases. But you start adding chemicals like crack or meth into the equasion and these drugs will do more harm than good.

I am not saying that it does not play a part... but look at the bigger picture.

duga · 07-25-2011, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BastardofYoung

Well, if you have a mental illness like say Schizophrenia, and you take 10 hits of acid... is this not going to have more of an impact on your illness?

Bi-Polar is one thing, and can be controlled with the medications... which she was not taking. Sure that plays a part in where she was and why she was a trainwreck in some cases. But you start adding chemicals like crack or meth into the equasion and these drugs will do more harm than good.

I am not saying that it does not play a part... but look at the bigger picture.

I wasn't making excuses for her or anything. I also didn't mean it to sound as if that was the root cause for her issues. I was just saying exactly what you just said...it played a part.

BastardofYoung · 07-25-2011, 12:44 PM

yeah, understood. So many factors with her to look at. Bi-Polar is just one peice of the puzzle I think.

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BastardofYoung Buzz Killjoy Join Date: May 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 2,692	ahhh, here we go again with the people who i wanna punch in the mouth, the people who think that people are bad for giving more attention to Amy WInehouse than the victims in Norway. Of course people will feel more of a connection to Amy Winehouse here than they will the victims of the Olso bombings/camp shooting. While one may sympathise with live lost in Norway, they will not feel the same connection to them personally or on an emotional level because they did not know them, they are just strangers to them... the people who will care more are family and friends, they will offer genuine support and it will be a story there. But here, Amy was somebody who many knew through her art, she was somebody people connected to in one way or another and through her art and music we knew her more than we did the people in Norway. I feel sympathy for lives lost either way, I am not saying people can not feel bad for the people who died in Norway, that is fine. But to say one is more important is to have yer own head up yer ass and talk out of it as well. Mainstream media will cover it more here because there is more of a connection in the mainstream media. If you want mainstream coverage of the people in Norway, move to Norway. __________________ last.fm ‎"I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people." - Jack Handey.

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BastardofYoung Buzz Killjoy Join Date: May 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 2,692	yeah, understood. So many factors with her to look at. Bi-Polar is just one peice of the puzzle I think. __________________ last.fm ‎"I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people." - Jack Handey.