Coldplay

Akira · 12-13-2008, 07:08 AM

At the Coldplay gig last night Chris Martin introduced a song by saying 'this song was written by Joe Satriani, in fact all of our songs are'.

T'was amusing.

sweet_nothing · 12-24-2008, 01:38 PM

Free download of a Viva La Vida remix at their website.

And a Xmas video with Simon Pegg
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scottsy · 12-28-2008, 06:55 AM

I gotta go with the notion that any similarities between Coldplay's and Satriani's song was pure coincidence - honestly, when you're working with rock music these things are bound to happen - I guess you gotta bear in mind you've got a certain number of combinations of chords, riffs, notes, whatever, and occasionally one of these combinations is justgoing to come up sounding like another, maybe only marginally different or virtually the same...

Its not intended, its just the law of averages... but it is a blurry enough line to mount a reasonable lawsuit with, I guess...

FaSho · 12-28-2008, 08:58 AM

I think I like Prospeckt's March better then anything they've ever done.

scottsy · 12-28-2008, 08:11 PM

I have Prospekt's March, and I really enjoyed Viva quite alot... haven't given Prospekt's March a good listen yet I liked the alternate / full version of "Life in Technicolor" - liked it as an instrumental on the album but it works even better as a song. Still need to hear the rest of the EP now though...

I'm not sure I'd call myself a Coldplay completist or anything, I loved their first two albums for what they were - just solid earnest ballady type things - then X and was just kinda a bit faceless and boring... But they actually really impressed me by thinking out of their own box for Viva La Vida. It's a really solid recording and I hope they continue in the direction they are headed in.

Sure they aren't the beatles second coming, but they aren't the terrible band everyone seems to rag on them about...

-Al- · 12-29-2008, 01:45 PM

I like Coldplay, but they can be a bit boring at times so I can see how snobby listeners would rag on them.

By the way, is anyone here open-minded about music in the slightest bit? All I've seen is snobbiness so far.

Anteater · 12-29-2008, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by -Al-

I like Coldplay, but they can be a bit boring at times so I can see how snobby listeners would rag on them.

By the way, is anyone here open-minded about music in the slightest bit? All I've seen is snobbiness so far.

There's plenty of open-mindedness here. It's just annoying when people write off music that could expand their tastes in favor of whatever happens to immediately comfortable and accessible (Coldplay being a prime example at times, if we're using this thread in context). Sorta makes this forum's purpose moot and such...

scottsy · 12-29-2008, 09:03 PM

I really dislike comfortable listening myself, I gotta say. I have nothing against Coldplay or music that is even more commercially driven. I actually happen to love Viva La Vida, even. What I do REALLY hate is the listener who will say "well that sucks because it doesn't get airplay" or they bury their heads in bands that are thrown at them by their radio station's playlist and don't make choices for themselves, or worse still degrade and decry people who have made the effort to seek out a style / artist they like...

So hey if you love Coldplay but you ALSO know this really cool band that no stations play in your area and have this wickedly different approach to music - you're totally the kinda person I want to talk to...

People who can see legitimate enjoymant in ALL forms of music are the very best to have a discussion with.

By the very same token I hate indie elitists as much as the radio cheese junkies... they're equally exclusive and close minded if all they listen to is stuff that is in their circle of "comfortable thought". I guess you could praise such people for looking for obscure acts and taking initiative, but man, the archetype indie snob is a really friggin' obnoxious person...

It's funny though - I consider Coldplay to often be a midpoint between the indie alt - rock elitist and the commercially oriented ignoramus...

Anteater · 12-29-2008, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottsy

I really dislike comfortable listening myself, I gotta say. I have nothing against Coldplay or music that is even more commercially driven. I actually happen to love Viva La Vida, even. What I do REALLY hate is the listener who will say "well that sucks because it doesn't get airplay" or they bury their heads in bands that are thrown at them by their radio station's playlist and don't make choices for themselves, or worse still degrade and decry people who have made the effort to seek out a style / artist they like...

So hey if you love Coldplay but you ALSO know this really cool band that no stations play in your area and have this wickedly different approach to music - you're totally the kinda person I want to talk to...

People who can see legitimate enjoymant in ALL forms of music are the very best to have a discussion with.

By the very same token I hate indie elitists as much as the radio cheese junkies... they're equally exclusive and close minded if all they listen to is stuff that is in their circle of "comfortable thought". I guess you could praise such people for looking for obscure acts and taking initiative, but man, the archetype indie snob is a really friggin' obnoxious person...

It's funny though - I consider Coldplay to often be a midpoint between the indie alt - rock elitist and the commercially oriented ignoramus...

Well, whether they are those who judge and listen to music based on how well it sells or those who limit their listening experiences to Independent artists-- everyone does the same damn thing: criticize. Everyone has an inner critic that judges everything around them subjectively. Whether or not you can keep it under control and have an open mind is completely up to you.

I myself am always seeking out obscure groups. Not for the sake of showing off my musical tolerance, but simply because I feel there is simply far more out there than what my local BestBuy or Hot Topic has to offer at their rediculously expensive prices. To do so is both a joy and learning experience.

On a secondary note regarding Coldplay: Plenty of groups (Toy Matinee, Alan Parsons, Tool, Radiohead, etc) have straddled the line between experimental and commercial viabilty over the decades. It's just at this point, I don't consider Coldplay (who overcompensate and wear their influences rather blatantly on their sleeves, a thing Chris Martin's comments in various interviews illustrates) one of them.

scottsy · 12-30-2008, 08:51 PM

Oh for sure we all have our inner critics... and I am aware that most commercial music usually is ****ty - but stuff cn be GOOD and commercially successful - you cite Radiohead and they are a great example!

I think I significantly mellowed in recent years on the whole commercial vs. underground question... mainly because I stopped caring what the band's status was commercially and just focussed on enjoying the tunes they'd created.

So in my daily listening there are still a ton of not so well known bands, even in the minscule Australian scene I am trying to follow from another country...

I bet not many people here know too much by such bands as The Fauves, Screamfeeder, Bluebottle Kiss or Augie March - they are all low to middle level exposure bands in Australia, and they are virtual nobodies internationally.

There was a time when that was ALL I'd listen to, period. And hey there's still a big part of me that feels these bands are vastly superior to anything on commercial radio, Coldplay included...

But I have grown to realise that limting myself to only these sorts of bands is limiting myself in another way. There is obscure stuff that is ****ty too - just as there is actually some good commercial music...

I consider Coldplay to be WAY better than most of the horribly commercial garbage being thrown at us...

12-28-2008, 06:55 AM	#423 (permalink)
scottsy Untalented Drummer Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sussex, Wisconsin Posts: 2,900	I gotta go with the notion that any similarities between Coldplay's and Satriani's song was pure coincidence - honestly, when you're working with rock music these things are bound to happen - I guess you gotta bear in mind you've got a certain number of combinations of chords, riffs, notes, whatever, and occasionally one of these combinations is justgoing to come up sounding like another, maybe only marginally different or virtually the same... Its not intended, its just the law of averages... but it is a blurry enough line to mount a reasonable lawsuit with, I guess... __________________ "If you're like me, then it's possible you're a clone generated from my stolen DNA. I suggest you turn yourself in for destruction immediately" - Shaun Micallef.

12-28-2008, 08:11 PM	#425 (permalink)
scottsy Untalented Drummer Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sussex, Wisconsin Posts: 2,900	I have Prospekt's March, and I really enjoyed Viva quite alot... haven't given Prospekt's March a good listen yet I liked the alternate / full version of "Life in Technicolor" - liked it as an instrumental on the album but it works even better as a song. Still need to hear the rest of the EP now though... I'm not sure I'd call myself a Coldplay completist or anything, I loved their first two albums for what they were - just solid earnest ballady type things - then X and was just kinda a bit faceless and boring... But they actually really impressed me by thinking out of their own box for Viva La Vida. It's a really solid recording and I hope they continue in the direction they are headed in. Sure they aren't the beatles second coming, but they aren't the terrible band everyone seems to rag on them about... __________________ "If you're like me, then it's possible you're a clone generated from my stolen DNA. I suggest you turn yourself in for destruction immediately" - Shaun Micallef.

12-29-2008, 09:03 PM	#428 (permalink)
scottsy Untalented Drummer Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sussex, Wisconsin Posts: 2,900	I really dislike comfortable listening myself, I gotta say. I have nothing against Coldplay or music that is even more commercially driven. I actually happen to love Viva La Vida, even. What I do REALLY hate is the listener who will say "well that sucks because it doesn't get airplay" or they bury their heads in bands that are thrown at them by their radio station's playlist and don't make choices for themselves, or worse still degrade and decry people who have made the effort to seek out a style / artist they like... So hey if you love Coldplay but you ALSO know this really cool band that no stations play in your area and have this wickedly different approach to music - you're totally the kinda person I want to talk to... People who can see legitimate enjoymant in ALL forms of music are the very best to have a discussion with. By the very same token I hate indie elitists as much as the radio cheese junkies... they're equally exclusive and close minded if all they listen to is stuff that is in their circle of "comfortable thought". I guess you could praise such people for looking for obscure acts and taking initiative, but man, the archetype indie snob is a really friggin' obnoxious person... It's funny though - I consider Coldplay to often be a midpoint between the indie alt - rock elitist and the commercially oriented ignoramus... __________________ "If you're like me, then it's possible you're a clone generated from my stolen DNA. I suggest you turn yourself in for destruction immediately" - Shaun Micallef.

12-30-2008, 08:51 PM	#430 (permalink)
scottsy Untalented Drummer Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sussex, Wisconsin Posts: 2,900	Oh for sure we all have our inner critics... and I am aware that most commercial music usually is **ty - but stuff cn be GOOD and commercially successful - you cite Radiohead and they are a great example! I think I significantly mellowed in recent years on the whole commercial vs. underground question... mainly because I stopped caring what the band's status was commercially and just focussed on enjoying the tunes they'd created. So in my daily listening there are still a ton of not so well known bands, even in the minscule Australian scene I am trying to follow from another country... I bet not many people here know too much by such bands as The Fauves, Screamfeeder, Bluebottle Kiss or Augie March - they are all low to middle level exposure bands in Australia, and they are virtual nobodies internationally. There was a time when that was ALL I'd listen to, period. And hey there's still a big part of me that feels these bands are vastly superior to anything on commercial radio, Coldplay included... But I have grown to realise that limting myself to only these sorts of bands is limiting myself in another way. There is obscure stuff that is **ty too - just as there is actually some good commercial music... I consider Coldplay to be WAY better than most of the horribly commercial garbage being thrown at us... __________________ "If you're like me, then it's possible you're a clone generated from my stolen DNA. I suggest you turn yourself in for destruction immediately" - Shaun Micallef.

12-29-2008, 01:45 PM	#426 (permalink)
-Al- Groupie Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 7	I like Coldplay, but they can be a bit boring at times so I can see how snobby listeners would rag on them. By the way, is anyone here open-minded about music in the slightest bit? All I've seen is snobbiness so far.