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Old 12-24-2011, 02:13 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Does one need to be obsessed to be a fan?
No, but if anyone is going to obsess over an artist, presumably it's going to be her fans.
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Old 12-24-2011, 02:15 PM   #52 (permalink)
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No, but if anyone is going to obsess over an artist, presumably it's going to be her fans.
Why obsess in the first place?
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Old 12-24-2011, 02:15 PM   #53 (permalink)
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I find it weird people are trying to argue she was a really talented musician...
I agree with that bit. If you think about it, her piano skills aren't particularly exceptional. There are kids in every school in the UK who could play to the same standard. She isn't creative when it comes to writing melodies, so I can't agree with anyone who's arguing in favour of her artistry.
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Lady Gaga isn't an exact clone of Madonna. I see more Bowie (her idol) in her to be honest.
Eh, I can see that visually. Not so much musically, though. I mean, maybe Bowie's most watered down material.

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There are kids in every school in the UK who could play to the same standard.
I'm glad somebody else sees this point. Seriously, doing that sort of very slow spaced out 'emotional' pop/rock style isn't the hardest thing in the world, either. I mean, if you want a phenomenal pianist search the words 'Martha Argerich'.
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Old 12-24-2011, 02:18 PM   #55 (permalink)
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Why obsess in the first place?
Why be obsessed with anything? People obviously like the fun and the outrageousness of her music.


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I'm glad somebody else sees this point. Seriously, doing that sort of very slow spaced out chord pop/rock style isn't the hardest thing in the world, either. I mean, if you want a phenomenal pianist search the words 'Martha Argerich'.
It is incredibly easy to make yourself sound good on the piano. Almost all of my friends are at least grade 6. It's just something we all learn!
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It is incredibly easy to make yourself sound good on the piano. Almost all of my friends are at least grade 6. It's just something we all learn!
Every try Busoni?

Seriously, though. Faking 'emotional' sounding piano work is the easiest thing to do on piano. You literally can hit any chord in any order, you just have to sustain them for a half note to a whole note, and dispense quarter note rests between them.
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Old 12-24-2011, 02:28 PM   #57 (permalink)
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Every try Busoni?
He was incredible. I've never encountered someone who put so much power into his performance (for a pianist, that is). I'm also amazed at how good the recordings are from 1920's.

Here's the one I feel to be the most powerful. It's incredible on an organ, but he makes it nearly as good on the piano!

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Why obsess in the first place?
Because people over-identify with musicians, they do it just as much with 'rock' stars too. I find it annnoying on message boards but I suppose you have to put up with it.

As for plagiarism, another word for it is influence. Everyone has influences, nothing is really completely original. What matters is whether what is done is done well or not.
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I'm surprised that she can even play any instrument.
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Old 12-26-2011, 04:09 AM   #60 (permalink)
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I'm surprised that she can even play any instrument.
She sure knows how to play a chromatic scale and do arpeggios, but I sense that her musical prowess has been greatly overblown.



If you just stop for a while and listen, you can probably, from where you are, hear someone playing to the same standard.
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