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Old 11-06-2012, 02:55 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I would say Liverpool because one group that young people are so into? Who else, THE BEATLES.
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Old 11-06-2012, 02:57 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I would say Liverpool because one group that young people are so into? Who else, THE BEATLES.
Why would a young person be into the Beatles
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Old 11-06-2012, 03:01 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I get what he's saying. A lot of young 'uns these days are distancing themselves from your Nicky Minajs, One Directions and Lady Gagas (should that be Ladies Gaga?) and trying to be so mature and "above it all" by saying they like the Beatles, more or less because that's what they think people older than them think they should be listening to. We see it a lot: oh this group sucks, listen to the Beatles, from someone who's probably heard a few hits and (like me) never a full album. It just comes across as posing I think.
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Old 11-06-2012, 03:11 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I get what he's saying. A lot of young 'uns these days are distancing themselves from your Nicky Minajs, One Directions and Lady Gagas (should that be Ladies Gaga?) and trying to be so mature and "above it all" by saying they like the Beatles, more or less because that's what they think people older than them think they should be listening to. We see it a lot: oh this group sucks, listen to the Beatles, from someone who's probably heard a few hits and (like me) never a full album. It just comes across as posing I think.
Sadly though Lady Gaga won't go away for a while. Plus they are some female artists that are acting like Gaga. I wouldn't count on Gaga dissappearing yet.
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Old 11-06-2012, 03:11 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I get what he's saying. A lot of young 'uns these days are distancing themselves from your Nicky Minajs, One Directions and Lady Gagas (should that be Ladies Gaga?) and trying to be so mature and "above it all" by saying they like the Beatles, more or less because that's what they think people older than them think they should be listening to. We see it a lot: oh this group sucks, listen to the Beatles, from someone who's probably heard a few hits and (like me) never a full album. It just comes across as posing I think.
Strange that, I mention the Beatles to a lot of young people and they hardly know them. They know that McCartney was in a famous band though.
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Old 11-06-2012, 03:21 PM   #16 (permalink)
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A lot of new artists are being vintage and using the ol skool Beatles type sound


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Old 11-06-2012, 04:25 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I get what he's saying. A lot of young 'uns these days are distancing themselves from your Nicky Minajs, One Directions and Lady Gagas (should that be Ladies Gaga?) and trying to be so mature and "above it all" by saying they like the Beatles, more or less because that's what they think people older than them think they should be listening to. We see it a lot: oh this group sucks, listen to the Beatles, from someone who's probably heard a few hits and (like me) never a full album. It just comes across as posing I think.
Completely agree with this.

The Beatles weren't even that good anyway.

Doing what you've described is as bad as liking Jay-Z or Kanye West because they're popular though. It's the same behaviour just a different generation of music.
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Old 11-07-2012, 02:43 AM   #18 (permalink)
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I get what he's saying. A lot of young 'uns these days are distancing themselves from your Nicky Minajs, One Directions and Lady Gagas (should that be Ladies Gaga?) and trying to be so mature and "above it all" by saying they like the Beatles, more or less because that's what they think people older than them think they should be listening to. We see it a lot: oh this group sucks, listen to the Beatles, from someone who's probably heard a few hits and (like me) never a full album. It just comes across as posing I think.
I think you are really underscoring the music preference of an entire generation to think the 1.) all of them to listen to Top 40 pop crap or have no knowledge of what isn't popular and 2.) if they go against the grain and they listen to a band that not too many in their generation know about than that somehow makes them posers. There is so much music out there that I can't see Lady Gaga or Micky Ninjas fans going in any direction let alone one direction and above it all.
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Old 11-07-2012, 04:02 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Birmingham:

Judas Priest
Black Sabbath
Led Zeppelin*
Steve Winwood
The Moody Blues
Spencer Davis Group
Traffic
The Move
Ocean Colour Scene
Dexys Midnight Runners
The Streets
Electric Light Orchestra

*Bonham/Plant were from the Greater Birmingham area and played in bands which were part of the Birmingham music scene, they performed and rehearsed frequently in the city. The other two were southerners but Birmingham can lay claim just as much, if not more than any other city in my opinion.

Liverpool:

The Beatles
The Zutons
Atomic Kitten
Echo and the Bunnymen
Gerry and the Pacemaker
The Searchers
Billy J Kramer
Cilla Black
Billy Fury
The Merseybeats
The Las
Elvis Costello and the Attractions
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Flock of Seagulls
Carcass
The Coral

Feel free to add bands for either city. Who wins?

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Old 11-07-2012, 11:50 AM   #20 (permalink)
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I think you are really underscoring the music preference of an entire generation to think the 1.) all of them to listen to Top 40 pop crap or have no knowledge of what isn't popular and 2.) if they go against the grain and they listen to a band that not too many in their generation know about than that somehow makes them posers. There is so much music out there that I can't see Lady Gaga or Micky Ninjas fans going in any direction let alone one direction and above it all.
Well, I never said ALL of them, but your average 15/16 year old does seem to be listening to this sort of artiste, as evidenced by their otherwise inexplicable success: I know I'm not buying their music, are you? And of course there are many younger people who are more serious about music, and know or want to know about them in depth, learn their history, standing in the annals of music, their influences and so on. But there are some who are just grabbing on to what they see as "the next cool thing" ---- maybe it's so retro to like the Beatles: I don't know how young people think these days, if I ever did.

I've nothing against young fans of the Beatles, in fact I really don't care what they listen to. Everyone's entitled to make their own musical choices. I was just responding to US's surprise that any kids would know of or be into the Beatles. Personally, I can take or leave them, and I'm aware there are probably millions who do just that. But SOME, read, some, are definitely posing by making a show of getting into the Beatles' music and pretending they know all about it, just, in the main, to look grown up and mature, whereas they're being just as childish by pretending to know about a genre/band they know nothing about but claiming to be fans. If they actually dig into the music --- albums, members, history, gigs etc --- then fine. But to just suddenly declare you like the Beatles and all other modern music is crap --- at age 14 or 15 --- is downright laughable.

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