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Old 02-27-2013, 06:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Lou Reed + John Cale
I was just about to post that. Even though they butted heads a lot, I feel that the tension they had helped create an amazing result. The same can be said about Michael Rother and Thomas Dinger of Neu.
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Old 02-28-2013, 06:16 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Of course I listen to a lot of pop and don't really consider myself a proghead at all. About Benny and Bjørn, I feel like I've heard enough ABBA to last me a lifetime, starting with LPs from when I was a kid. But there's no denying they wrote great pop songs - and lots of them. My personal favorites may be Voulez Vous and SOS
They weren't too popular here, so they never worn on me. I can take them or leave them depending on the song. But I still love SOS, Pete Townsend said it was the greatest Pop song ever written. What I like about it is like a mini Prog song, under three and a half minutes.

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I was just about to post that. Even though they butted heads a lot, I feel that the tension they had helped create an amazing result. The same can be said about Michael Rother and Thomas Dinger of Neu.
It wasn't a writing partnership like Elton and a Bernie Taupin were like everything was a colabortain. They did write some songs together, but Lou Reed singularly gets the credit for something like 73% of the songs on VU & Nico. But I'm not saying the Cale or the other had no imput, even Moe got credit on European son, and the band as a whole contribute to the music as a whole. Still "Sunday Morning" is enough to mention them.

I guess another example would be Mike Love and Brian Wilson there a few songs, but Brian wrote most, some with outside (of the band) help.
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It wasn't a writing partnership like Elton and a Bernie Taupin were like everything was a colabortain. They did write some songs together, but Lou Reed singularly gets the credit for something like 73% of the songs on VU & Nico. But I'm not saying the Cale or the other had no imput, even Moe got credit on European son, and the band as a whole contribute to the music as a whole. Still "Sunday Morning" is enough to mention them.

I wouldn't say so at all. Reed (usually) wrote the lyrics and created the general idea and/or melody... whereas Cale developed them into something more interesting and unique. It's like... Reed came up with a pencil drawing and Cale turned it into a painting. So, I would say it's around 50/50 as far as the songwriting is concerned.
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I'm going to have to throw two partnerships in to the hat here:

Mercury/May
Godley/Creme
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I wouldn't say so at all.
Still you ca't say they worked together the same way John & Taupin did - using them (J&T) as one example of songwriting team in the traditional sense. Lennon and McCartney didn't either, Paul would write the song and John would givehis imput and vice a versa.

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[Reed (usually) wrote the lyrics and created the general idea and/or melody... whereas Cale developed them into something more interesting and unique. It's like... Reed came up with a pencil drawing and Cale turned it into a painting. So, I would say it's around 50/50 as far as the songwriting is concerned. [/FONT]
50/50? What about Sterling and Moe, what are they... chop liver? Lou wrote the song and the band together turun it into the final peice of artwork.
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50/50? What about Sterling and Moe, what are they... chop liver? Lou wrote the song and the band together turun it into the final peice of artwork.
I'm talking about between the two of them. Tucker and Morrison were vital in The Velvet Underground's rhythm section and gave it that quasi-indie rock feel.
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