Freebase Dali

The problem here is this is Musicbanter, not Opinionbanter. (I know the two are actually pretty closely related, but the point is being on topic)

If you go around posting off-topic stuff like "I like turtles" in a thread dedicated to a particular legitimate topic, you're not doing yourself any favors... which is clearly noted in our rules. You're new here, so I'll let you figure this out as you go along. Just saying, the rules are there to help. You should try them out.

I mean dedicated threads to a band or artist. Not threads asking opinions of bands. There may not be an objective difference, but in terms of practicality, especially here, there usually is. Which is why I bring this entire subject up.

I agree, however I feel that many people here may not, which is why I was wondering. If it was a forum filled with Urbans, there would be no point to this thread.

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Trollheart

Personally, I tend to stay out of threads that don't interest me, are about bands or topics that I have no real interest in. F'r instance if I see a thread called "I love Pet Shop Boys", I'd not go in because I DON'T love PSB, but that doesn't invalidate the opinion of those who do. It just seems counter-productive and anyway if the thread is pretty obviously an "appreciation" one then I'm likely to be up against it, being a minority of one. Even if I see something asking for opinions on something I don't like --- "Do you love/hate rap" --- I'll not bother, because I dont know enough about the subject to offer an opinion.

On the other hand, if someone makes a thread like "Marillion suck" or "Tom Waits couldn't compose his way out of a paper bag" I'd be in there like a shot.

If I have something constructive to say I'll say it, but there are so many good threads I can post in, where my opinion and comments and views will be appreciated, why walk into the lion's den?

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Freebase Dali

Very true. Most of the time I'm pretty much of this default value.
However, there are times when I either don't know much about a particular band or artist, read the thread, check them out, then am like "Ok, wow..." and would love to express an opinion about it. But most often I just relegate myself to silence and avoid agitating.

In the long run, it might save me time and grief, but I also wonder about how many opportunities I'm missing for some smart fellow to point out where I'm wrong and get me to look at things in a different light, which may not have been possible had I avoided the confrontation to begin with.

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I hate Marillion. For obvious reasons.

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Exo

What if Janz, myself, or Batlord said "I like turtles"? Would you respond to them in the same manner? I know this is a bit off topic but it boomerangs back to how people should post on this board. I generally speak my mind on here and don't hold anything back unless it's a personal attack. That term should be defined by the way. Telling somebody that The Beatles are horrible and that they need to listen to better music may be brash but it is not a personal attack (I like the Beatles you serious music knights). However, if I told them that they're an idiot for liking The Beatles and that they probably poop in the bathtub, that would be a bit out of bound and grounds for deletion.

My point is that free speech should apply to this message board just like it should apply in real life. In order to maintain a clean and orderly message boards, mods such as yourselves need to decide what is trash and what is brash opinions. "I like turtles" while being brief and ultimately without much substance is still a post that he has every right to make. It didn't derail anything and I'm sure if Janz said it there would be a member who sucked his nuts over it, and deservedly so. Love you Janz.


Now Freebase, please go home because your music opinion sucks and you have no worth on this message board anymore.

I leave it up to you to decide whether I'm serious or not.




















I'm not.

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Freebase Dali

Yes, actually. Although I wouldn't tell Janszoon to read the rules, as we all wrote them, so I'm sure he is aware of them. I also wouldn't delete his post, or yours, or anyone else's, unless it started to create a snowball effect of people joining in. I would, however, make some sort of a statement that the thread was intended for serious discussion, just in case it wasn't apparent in the OP for some weird reason, and remind anyone who might not be aware of our rules that they do indeed exist.

Anyway, with the whole "rights" thing and freedom of speech as it applies to a private enterprise on the internet, I don't think I need to go into all that. It's obviously a matter of maintaining order without being oppressive, but I do think that the majority of opinion and flow of a community is what's going to ultimately dictate the restrictions being placed.
Below that, though, it's more esoteric when it comes to issues about not creating the impression of insult when making an opinion about something as subjective as music taste, which is why I was asking.

Liking turtles has nothing to do with it, and trying to make a point about the [mistaken] ability to say whatever you want could have been done easily without overt disregard for the subject at hand.

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